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Lions of Sabi Sands

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Great news! Lets hope Gingerella takes the opportunity to split and return home.
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Agree with everyone great to see them back in the west. A lot easier to dodge the Nk/Styx/PC males than whatever is in Kruger. And of course, they have full bellies…these guys never fail to amaze me. Barely 3, all alone, and yet never looking hungry or in poor condition.
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Saw on the Lions of  Djuma group that the Nk and Styx Males have been given the coalition name "Nwalungu Males" meaning "North Males" in Shangaan
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(07-07-2021, 09:08 PM)Gijima Wrote: Agree with everyone great to see them back in the west. A lot easier to dodge the Nk/Styx/PC males than whatever is in Kruger. And of course, they have full bellies…these guys never fail to amaze me. Barely 3, all alone, and yet never looking hungry or in poor condition.

Dont think Nk/Styx and PC boys are any threat to Othawa subadults, they are still not territorial males and will not try to kill them, unlike territorial/dominant males.. They will chase them of the kills (if they can, Junior is definitely big as those boys, and 2 mini Matimbas are also catching up in size, they didn't look that small standing next to Amahle Nwaswitshaka, and if they dare to challenge territorial male over kill, they will definitely do that with nomads) and thats pretty much it..Mhangeni pride is probably more of a threat because their numbers and history.. 

Definitely safest area to be in is Singita and western sector atm..
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(07-07-2021, 09:55 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Saw on the Lions of  Djuma group that the Nk and Styx Males have been given the coalition name "Nwalungu Males" meaning "North Males" in Shangaan

Named by who?
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(07-07-2021, 10:35 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-07-2021, 09:55 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Saw on the Lions of  Djuma group that the Nk and Styx Males have been given the coalition name "Nwalungu Males" meaning "North Males" in Shangaan

Named by who?

By the different guides and lodges of sabi apparently. I'll post more information here if any appears
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(07-07-2021, 10:41 PM)Tonpa Wrote: By the different guides and lodges of sabi apparently. I'll post more information here if any appears

Interesting name.
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(07-07-2021, 10:32 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-07-2021, 09:08 PM)Gijima Wrote: Agree with everyone great to see them back in the west. A lot easier to dodge the Nk/Styx/PC males than whatever is in Kruger. And of course, they have full bellies…these guys never fail to amaze me. Barely 3, all alone, and yet never looking hungry or in poor condition.

Dont think Nk/Styx and PC boys are any threat to Othawa subadults, they are still not territorial males and will not try to kill them, unlike territorial/dominant males.. They will chase them of the kills (if they can, Junior is definitely big as those boys, and 2 mini Matimbas are also catching up in size, they didn't look that small standing next to Amahle Nwaswitshaka, and if they dare to challenge territorial male over kill, they will definitely do that with nomads) and thats pretty much it..Mhangeni pride is probably more of a threat because their numbers and history.. 

Definitely safest area to be in is Singita and western sector atm..

Yeah that’s what I meant. “Dodging” them as in they might get chased. Definitely no one will fatally attack them here. 

What do you mean Mhangeni prides history? They’ve attacked young males before?
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(07-07-2021, 11:51 PM)Gijima Wrote: Yeah that’s what I meant. “Dodging” them as in they might get chased. Definitely no one will fatally attack them here. 

What do you mean Mhangeni prides history? They’ve attacked young males before?

Not specifically young males (althrough just recently they chased of Styx and NK without a problem) , but other prides/outsiders, they are very hostile in that department (just over a year or so ago they killed older Southern Pride female and attacked Othawa pride females, who needed to run for their lives).
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Once Gingerella has returned to her pride. I hope they just move one as fast as possible. 


The place already has Styx and Nyx and Plain Camps coalitions showing interest in claiming it as their territory. The Tsalala lioness trying to raise her cub.  
Not to mention the Mhangeni pride. So that's plenty of lions wandering around there already. 

No need for them to get caught up in all that and complicate things further.
They need to wander a bit more. Get some experience beaten in them and then perhaps take over some obscure pride in Kruger or something. Spread the genes a bit.
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Young Othawa are already too old and too big to be bulied by Mhangeni pride. I could be even other way around and I would not be suprised at all if Othawas would stole some kill from Mhangenis. I bet the boys also would be able to hold their own against PC and Styx/Nkuchuma males as long as they stick together.
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I think they are overrated. They barely have been independent for a few months and people already try to make them out to be somekind of superlions out to take the reserve by storm.. 
But in reality they are just some youngsters with little to no experience in a real fight. So the minute someone actually challenges them, they are more likely to run.
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A breathtaking shot of one of the Sand River females was recently taken by Patsy Weingart.

Sabi Sands, South Africa.
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To follow & for print: @pnweingart
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(07-08-2021, 02:32 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I think they are overrated. They barely have been independent for a few months and people already try to make them out to be somekind of superlions out to take the reserve by storm.. 
But in reality they are just some youngsters with little to no experience in a real fight. So the minute someone actually challenges them, they are more likely to run.

Agree, youngsters are 2.5 yrs old only theres no chance they bully 6 adult females strong pride lol..
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(07-08-2021, 08:49 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-08-2021, 02:32 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I think they are overrated. They barely have been independent for a few months and people already try to make them out to be somekind of superlions out to take the reserve by storm.. 
But in reality they are just some youngsters with little to no experience in a real fight. So the minute someone actually challenges them, they are more likely to run.

Agree, youngsters are 2.5 yrs old only theres no chance they bully 6 adult females strong pride lol..

Wasn't long ago those subs protected their kill from clan of around 40 hyenas...
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