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05-11-2021, 04:26 PM( This post was last modified: 05-11-2021, 04:42 PM by Thierry )
May be OM felt strong, he was coming in his prime. He'd never felt like now and thought, it could be his time. Thinking so, with a lack of experience in real confrontation with other male lions, he let his testosteron level take control.
We can't say that's "non-Majingilane" behaviour, remember, first Majin was killed by Mapogos, far away from his brothers.
05-11-2021, 05:37 PM( This post was last modified: 05-11-2021, 05:38 PM by Hairy tummy )
If the bboys look unscathed i tend to think the om ran into them and the females. as posted earlier,he maybe tried to make his way back but died from his injuries
(05-11-2021, 04:26 PM)Thierry Wrote: May be OM felt strong, he was coming in his prime. He'd never felt like now and thought, it could be his time. Thinking so, with a lack of experience in real confrontation with other male lions, he let his testosteron level take control.
We can't say that's "non-Majingilane" behaviour, remember, first Majin was killed by Mapogos, far away from his brothers.
Yes, but 5th Majingilane was not trying to fight he made a mistake to rather stay hidden than run and was found. Confidence might have played a role, as that one was considered sort of a Majingilane first leader. Either way it was a turning point for Majingilane and subsequent night they became what we knew them like. Othawa kind of acted more like a Kinky Tail Mapogo and Mapogos were his grandfathers. But I was not trying to say such decision are bound to this or that bloodline, just that it was a bit ironic that most followed Majingilane son (so far) find his end in behaviour his fathers would probably never do. But then again they have luxury of being a coalition while he was a lone male.
(05-11-2021, 05:55 PM)RookiePundit Wrote: Yes, but 5th Majingilane was not trying to fight he made a mistake to rather stay hidden than run and was found. Confidence might have played a role, as that one was considered sort of a Majingilane first leader. Either way it was a turning point for Majingilane and subsequent night they became what we knew them like. Othawa kind of acted more like a Kinky Tail Mapogo and Mapogos were his grandfathers. But I was not trying to say such decision are bound to this or that bloodline, just that it was a bit ironic that most followed Majingilane son (so far) find his end in behaviour his fathers would probably never do. But then again they have luxury of being a coalition while he was a lone male
05-11-2021, 09:59 PM( This post was last modified: 05-11-2021, 10:02 PM by Duco Ndona )
Ultimately we we weren't him at the time. That bush may have looked like a perfect spot when he found it. Perhaps it was and the Mapogos just got lucky.
I think its pretty hard to compare lions like that.
In the end. Life is something each lion has to figure out for himself.
They are more shaped by their own experiences and whatever upbringing the lionesses give them than whoever their grandfathers were and whatever crazy antics they were up to.
05-11-2021, 11:44 PM( This post was last modified: 05-11-2021, 11:57 PM by Slayerd )
I've seen a lot of people think that the Kambula Pride as a whole took out the Othawa Male but this seems very unlikely to be the case. Looking at the behaviour of Lionesses, they don't participate in the mauling of other male lions. When faced by Male lions, Lionesses will either try to push them away by actively attacking them or distract them by flirting but to actually maul and kill a lion is very rare and not a real option. Whilst a pride might be able to injure a male which later can lead to his death, they don't maul and kill male lions. People like to paint the Kambula as killing machine and aggressive Lionesses that will kill anything but whilst they may be aggressive against other prides, they have never killed male lions. People assume they injured Nsuku but they didn't actually kill him. In fact the Birmingham Males themselves wiped out all the Kambula cubs in 2018 and nothing happened to them. Nhenha saved the Mangheni lioness and Tinyo and him saved the Tsalala lioness from these Lionesses as well. The most likely scenario is the Birmingham Boys were the ones involved in the killing and the pride played little to no role in his death
(05-11-2021, 11:44 PM)Slayerd Wrote: I've seen a lot of people think that the Kambula Pride as a whole took out the Othawa Male but this is very unlikely. Looking at the behaviour of Lionesses, they don't participate in the mailing of other male lions. When faced by Male lions, Lionesses will either try to push them away by actively attacking them or distract them by flirting but to actually maul and kill a lion is very rare and not a real option. Whilst a pride might be able to injure a male which later can lead to his death, they don't maul and kill male lions. People like to paint the Kambula as killing machine and aggressive Lionesses that will kill anything but whilst they may be aggressive against other prides, they have never killed male lions. People assume they injured Nsuku but they didn't actually kill him. In fact the Birmingham Males themselves wiped out all the Kambula cubs in 2018 and nothing happened to them. Nhenha saved the Mangheni lioness and Tinyo and him saved the Tsalala lioness. The most likely scenario is the Birmingham Boys were the ones involved in the killing
Lionesses will not "maul" male lion (atleast i didn't see it) because they are too affraid and too weak for that, but they might help their pride males to corner an inturding male, and then males take over and maul the male, especially if those lionesses have cubs, reports where saying OM head straight into the area where Kambulas have hidden cubs, so females definitely will act protective..
I've read that some think that even subadults participate, which is absurd, they would run of immidiately if they see or hear serious males fighting..
But as somebody here pointed out, it doesnt have to be that they killed OM on the spot or break his back (which is not that easy in 2 vs 1 situation, as male will most likely be lying on his back defending himself), they might just maul his legs and left him, he might even walk away, depending of injuies, but eventually he died of blood loss..
A lot of killing in the recent months, Addo boy in Madikwe, Monwana male, Mbilu and now OM.. the ugly side of these magnificent animals..
This has been a rotten year: Orpen males gone, OM gone, Monwana's are gone (unlikely that the limping one will survive), Vurhami's decimated, HB gone, Nharhus lost a member. Deaths are just piling up.
In the wake of OMs loss, I hope Junior and his siblings make it.
05-12-2021, 12:34 AM( This post was last modified: 05-12-2021, 12:34 AM by Tonpa )
Elephant Plains Sightings of the week
Monday, 3 May 2021
The Talamati pride of lions and 1 Avoca male lion resting at Matundaluka Pan.
The 2 Plains Camp male lions resting on Ngala open area.
Tuesday, 4 May 2021
The Nkuhuma pride of lions resting on Gowrie main Road.
Wednesday, 5 May 2021
The 2 Plains Camp male lions feeding on an impala kill on Imboma Road.
Friday, 7 May 2021
The Nkuhuma pride of lions and 1 Avoca male lion resting on Lucas open area.
The Ximungwe lioness and her cub resting on Road 7.
Saturday, 8 May 2021 Two Avoca male lions chasing the 2 Plains Camp male lions on Simbambili Firebreak.
Sunday, 9 May 2021
The Nkuhuma pride of lions resting on the southern side of Safari Airstrip.
