Lions of Sabi Sands

[Tr1x24]

(05-03-2021, 10:17 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Talamatis on Djuma, attempting to hunt Buffalo with Dark Mane but it didn't pan out. He counted 14 total and mentioned he hasn't seen one of the sub-adult males in the while

14 with DM? Reply

[Tonpa]

(05-03-2021, 10:24 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(05-03-2021, 10:17 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Talamatis on Djuma, attempting to hunt Buffalo with Dark Mane but it didn't pan out. He counted 14 total and mentioned he hasn't seen one of the sub-adult males in the while

14 with DM?

Yeah I believe so, 13 Talamatis and DM Reply

[Potato]

(05-03-2021, 10:07 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(05-03-2021, 10:01 PM)Potato Wrote: I am thinking the same - that because of pressure from another coalition he shifted to southern Manyeleti. His issue is that there are at the moment no prides in southern Manyeleti as Talamati pride shifted further south. Because of that Imbali male also shifts even further. It will be intresting to see how will lion dynamic go in the northern Sabi Sands. We might soon see some sort of interaction between DM Avoca and Imbali male

I dont think its necessarily pressure from other males, more vacant space south of him, because Imbali Lodge posted video of him in early April mating, and week ago a photo with lioness..and no new males around.. 

I dont think he would be concerned by Hamiltons male or 2 S125 males, these guys have territories further north/west, but as DM shifted from Southern Manyeleti/Buffelshoek to Djuma, he is naturally moving there. 

I think that now almost all (or all) Imbali pride females gave birth, so he is prob trying to found new females for mating, which might lead to abandoning Imbalis if he suceeds..

Posted photo very well might not be recent. Considering amount of his presence in Sabi Sands I think it is doubtfull that he is traveling to Imbali as well. I do not think he would leave Imbali pride willingly unless he would have easy takeover of another pride on the range of the hand, which he doesn't have as Talamati pride is avoiding him. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(05-03-2021, 10:32 PM)Potato Wrote: Posted photo very well might not be recent. Considering amount of his presence in Sabi Sands I think it is doubtfull that he is traveling to Imbali as well. I do not think he would leave Imbali pride willingly unless he would have easy takeover of another pride on the range of the hand, which he doesn't have as Talamati pride is avoiding him.

Hoyo Hoyo posted his video, those Camps are just 2-3 km of Buffelshoek, and almost at Southern Manyeleti border, so that distance for male lion is nothing and can walk in few hours:

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Its like from Elephant Plains to MalaMala Main, distance that N. Avocas are covering regulary..

I think Imbali male is doing similar thing like Mohawk and Blondie atm, he has a pride behind full of cubs/subadults, but is exploring new options and opportunities. Reply

[Brahim]

3/4 N’waswitshaka males.
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(05-03-2021, 11:07 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: 3/4 N’waswitshaka males.
Credit: Dean Clabrough
https://instagram.com/deanclabrough

Good sighting bro, Although was shared before on the N'waswitshak thread by @lionuk Reply

[Tr1x24]

(05-03-2021, 10:28 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Yeah I believe so, 13 Talamatis and DM

I also noticed they where talking only of 2 subadult males months ago on WildEarth..

Maybe theres in fact 2 young males and not 3, and 1 more female then? If the total number is 14 without DM.. Reply

[Tonpa]

(05-03-2021, 11:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(05-03-2021, 10:28 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Yeah I believe so, 13 Talamatis and DM

I also noticed they where talking only of 2 subadult males months ago on WildEarth..

Maybe theres in fact 2 young males and not 3, and 1 more female then? If the total number is 14 without DM..

Hmm not sure, I'm trying to go back through and find footage.
Heres the talamatis walking past Laurens car in January, 13 lions total and what looks like only 2 males

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[Tonpa]

Found this on the talamati FB page uploaded February, and the second pic from a tintswalo video also February
One of the males is blonde it seems, compared to the other two who have dark early manes. Maybe he's being mistaken for a female at a distance

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[Tr1x24]

(05-04-2021, 12:28 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Hmm not sure, I'm trying to go back through and find footage.
Heres the talamatis walking past Laurens car in January, 13 lions total and what looks like only 2 males

Tintswalo video from February also talking only about 2 males..

This is quite a mystery now..

Is this the same male? :

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First photo Talamati male from August 2020, and 2nd from February 2021..

Funny enough on that Tintswalo video from August 2020 i also saw only 2 males..

Is there any photo of 3 Talamati young males? Reply

[Tr1x24]

(05-04-2021, 02:02 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Found this on the talamati FB page uploaded February, and the second pic from a tintswalo video also February
One of the males is blonde it seems, compared to the other two who have dark early manes. Maybe he's being mistaken for a female at a distance

Same male? :

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I think the first male on this picture is different..

Which would mean that in February all 3 where alive, and that male with smallest mane might be mistaken for lioness, idk.. Reply

[Tonpa]

Looks like two different males, so those 2 and this male? 

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[Tr1x24]

(05-04-2021, 02:23 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Looks like two different males, so those 2 and this male? 

Yes that Dark Mane..

3 Talamatis:

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[Gijima]

There are three Talamati males. 

@Tonpa the first picture you posted is one of the two dark maned ones (the lighting makes him look blond):

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The one on the left is easiest to Id. He has a very dark mane and orange eyes. The guy on the right... I just look for the scratches above his nose. 

The blond one that is always presumed missing because he looks like a female:

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He is the on in the Tintswalo video. If you look at the pictures you posted of the other side of his face he has a spot in between his first and second whisker line. 

All 15 lions were seen last week so it just a matter of some being hidden in grass or out of view. 

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[Tonpa]

Btw are these 3 all littermates? or maybe the two darker ones? Reply