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Lions of Sabi Sands

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Birminghams won't leave Kambula pride because they do not have good alternative for that pride. Kambula youngsters won't share the fate of Mhangeni sub adults because they are in totally different situation. Mhangeni females left their sub adults behind as they went to mate with Birminghams. Sub adults could not follow as Birminghams were not the fathers to those sub adults and could have killed them if they would meet. Kambula subadults still will be part of the pride even if adult females will fall pregnant. Only worry about that situation is that newborn cubs most likely will not survive. Since Kambula sub adults are yet not able to feed for themselfs it will most likely will be too much mouths to feed for adult Kambulas.
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And one thing i not understand, every post from londolozi about Bboys are same contents, all of them are negative (how weak they are , how long they will be king of this land, one male had limp(about Tinyos 4 years old limp)) , why they hate this males.)
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(07-28-2020, 01:47 AM)Potato Wrote: Birminghams won't leave Kambula pride because they do not have good alternative for that pride. Kambula youngsters won't share the fate of Mhangeni sub adults because they are in totally different situation. Mhangeni females left their sub adults behind as they went to mate with Birminghams. Sub adults could not follow as Birminghams were not the fathers to those sub adults and could have killed them if they would meet. Kambula subadults still will be part of the pride even if adult females will fall pregnant. Only worry about that situation is that newborn cubs most likely will not survive. Since Kambula sub adults are yet not able to feed for themselfs it will most likely will be too much mouths to feed for adult Kambulas.

Agree, i pretty much expect that those 11 older subadults breakeaway from the pride next year, there just wont be enough food for all, regardless of the new cubs.

It seems that Nkuhumas are in the process of breakeaway too, 3 younger lionesses are seen more and more on their own now that 9 young cubs are getting bigger and are eating more.
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(07-28-2020, 01:52 AM)Dreadlocks Wrote: And one thing i not understand, every post from londolozi about Bboys are same contents, all of them are negative (how weak they are , how long they will be king of this land, one male had limp(about Tinyos 4 years old limp)) , why they hate this males.)

1. Birmingham are coming to 10 years old soon and down to two members. It is natural at that stage of lions life debate arises on how long more they can hold. 

2. Male lion dynamic are very... dynamic. They can change very fast no coalition can rule forever. I do not think it is heatred from Londolozi side towards Birminghams, but reasonable bet. They of course may least longer then what Londolozi guides bet on or not as long, but I do not see point in too much optimism, acting like Birminghams could live forever.
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(07-28-2020, 02:11 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-28-2020, 01:47 AM)Potato Wrote: Birminghams won't leave Kambula pride because they do not have good alternative for that pride. Kambula youngsters won't share the fate of Mhangeni sub adults because they are in totally different situation. Mhangeni females left their sub adults behind as they went to mate with Birminghams. Sub adults could not follow as Birminghams were not the fathers to those sub adults and could have killed them if they would meet. Kambula subadults still will be part of the pride even if adult females will fall pregnant. Only worry about that situation is that newborn cubs most likely will not survive. Since Kambula sub adults are yet not able to feed for themselfs it will most likely will be too much mouths to feed for adult Kambulas.

Agree, i pretty much expect that those 11 older subadults breakeaway from the pride next year, there just wont be enough food for all, regardless of the new cubs.

It seems that Nkuhumas are in the process of breakeaway too, 3 younger lionesses are seen more and more on their own now that 9 young cubs are getting bigger and are eating more.

Wasn't in that pride 4 young females?
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(07-28-2020, 02:19 AM)Potato Wrote:
(07-28-2020, 01:52 AM)Dreadlocks Wrote: And one thing i not understand, every post from londolozi about Bboys are same contents, all of them are negative (how weak they are , how long they will be king of this land, one male had limp(about Tinyos 4 years old limp)) , why they hate this males.)

1. Birmingham are coming to 10 years old soon and down to two members. It is natural at that stage of lions life debate arises on how long more they can hold. 

2. Male lion dynamic are very... dynamic. They can change very fast no coalition can rule forever. I do not think it is heatred from Londolozi side towards Birminghams, but reasonable bet. They of course may least longer then what Londolozi guides bet on or not as long, but I do not see point in too much optimism, acting like Birminghams could live forever.

Yes of course, I didn't see the hate of James towards Birmingham he's talking toward his perspective of a experienced guide in the area.
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(07-28-2020, 02:25 AM)Potato Wrote: Wasn't in that pride 4 young females?

Yes, but 1 is hanging mostly on her own around Simbambili area (one who was with NK young male), but she might join up with her sisters.
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" Heading back into the area where we had seen some lion tracks but no lions - we thought let's give it another try. As we approached the area, we saw a few vultures scattered around and thought that there must be a kill around, and we were right! Six lions had taken down a decent sized buffalo bull and gorged themselves until there was almost nothing left. "


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( This post was last modified: 07-29-2020, 02:29 AM by T I N O )

One of the Birmingham males 
Until today the Birmingham are going to be one of the most succesfully coalitions in the Sabi Sand.
they're almost in their 5th year as dominant males and with the all prides that they have dominanted with each of them have been succesfully with their offsprings

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One of the sub-adult males of the Ntsevu/Kambula pride
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"they're almost in their 6th year as dominant males"

They are near their 5th year, not 5th.
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(07-29-2020, 01:44 AM)Potato Wrote: "they're almost in their 6th year as dominant males"

They are near their 5th year, not 5th.

They became  dominant in 2015.
5 years until now, Next year will be the 6th.
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(07-29-2020, 01:58 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(07-29-2020, 01:44 AM)Potato Wrote: "they're almost in their 6th year as dominant males"

They are near their 5th year, not 5th.

They became  dominant in 2015.
5 years until now, Next year will be the 6th.

They began their takeover in August 2015 so there will be 5th year of rule in one month.
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Well.
I not have took in count the month, So I need edit it.
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The Othawa male!
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