Lions of Sabi Sands

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(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: Had a question: where did the Kruger male currently with the S Avoca come from? Is he the same guy that was the Torchwood and Fourways pride male 2-3 years back? Was he chased away by the Mantimahle males? And the Imbali pride is currently controlled by the Mantinahles right?

Yes he did control them prides along with his brother, after his brother disappeared he stayed with Torchwood Pride but the Mantimahle sons and 5th Mantimahle male ended up pushing North after being chased by both Southern Avocas after failing to reclaim old Mantimahle territory.

5th Mantimahle then disappeared and both sons eventually ended up taking over Torchwood Pride by that time, or atleast causing a split. While all this was happening, Kruger Male ended up being seen more on the Sabi Sands boundary with Manyeleti within the last year, he prolly sensed the Mantimahle sons and realised he was outnumbered, he also sired cubs in Torchwood Pride so wanted new females. He was seen mating with Imbali females and even had cubs but none of them survived. 

Skip forward a few months and then the 4 Kambula males come across the Imbali females and wanted to mate with them before focusing on Nkuhuma Pride. They chased Kruger Male who was once again outnumbered and he become a nomad. Just so happens that around the time he become a nomad, the remaining S.Avoca had come North for the first time in numerous years, since entering Sabi Sands as a young male even, and this is how they met. 

Imbali Pride just mate with whatever males they come across, myself and a few others believe Mantimahle males prolly chased the Kambula males in Manyeleti causing them to leave the Imbali females, but no interaction was ever seen. So are Mantimahles the pride males of Imbali Pride this very second, no, but is it looking like they will be in the future, yes. Reply

[Potato]

(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: Had a question: where did the Kruger male currently with the S Avoca come from? Is he the same guy that was the Torchwood and Fourways pride male 2-3 years back?

Yes

(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: Was he chased away by the Mantimahle males?

His brother died and then Mantimahles ousted ramaining Kruger male.

(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: And the Imbali pride is currently controlled by the Mantinahles right?

As far as I remember nor Imbali pride nor Imbali breakaway pride (which residents in southern Manyeleti) has currently pride male or dominant coalition.

(10 hours ago)Dreadlocks Wrote: S Avoca and Kruger male at Sabi sabi 

It would be awesome for them if they could link up with Talamati and Nkuchuma male. Separatelly they have rather poor odds to became dominant coalition. In coalition of 4 however that would be a whole different story. Reply

[Friarfan619]

(8 hours ago)Potato Wrote:

(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: Had a question: where did the Kruger male currently with the S Avoca come from? Is he the same guy that was the Torchwood and Fourways pride male 2-3 years back?

Yes

(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: Was he chased away by the Mantimahle males?

His brother died and then Mantimahles ousted ramaining Kruger male.

(10 hours ago)Mabande Wrote: And the Imbali pride is currently controlled by the Mantinahles right?

As far as I remember nor Imbali pride nor Imbali breakaway pride (which residents in southern Manyeleti) has currently pride male or dominant coalition.

(10 hours ago)Dreadlocks Wrote: S Avoca and Kruger male at Sabi sabi 

It would be awesome for them if they could link up with Talamati and Nkuchuma male. Separatelly they have rather poor odds to became dominant coalition. In coalition of 4 however that would be a whole different story.

Khanya unknowingly spending time with all his uncle seems cool to me lol Reply

[Tr1x24]

(Today, 03:31 AM)Guillermo94 Wrote: . I forget is amahle older brother?

(Today, 03:31 AM)Guillermo94 Wrote: . I forget is amahle older brother?

Despite how we believed previously, both males are around same age, if not littermates, Amahle is just bigger male overall and had developed bigger mane earlier (same as for example K4 looked much more developed early on with bigger mane than his littermates K3 and K5).

Here we can see 3 males as  ~2 yrs old subs, they look pretty much same age (maybe weeks/month or so difference) :

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[Tr1x24]

(Today, 07:51 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 wasn't Eorenji charging in front of his brother? Guide even mentions it IIRC, also it doesn't seem he was limping at all.

I'm not sure splitting was a strategic move, I think Eorenji, being more aggressive/confident currently ( see him winning the last mating rights disputes ) made him overextend ( same way and reason guides said DM Majingi was temporarily caught by S.Matimbas ), then when PCM turned and charged, Eorenji couldn't run in the same direction as his brother, they lacked some coordination there due to Eorebji overextending.

After watching it again idk, maybe it was OE afterall. Reply

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Elephant Plains Weekly Big 5 Sightings 25 November – 1 December 2024

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Monday, 25 November 2024
*One Kambula male lion feeding on a giraffe carcass on the Southern side of Arathusa Safari Airstrip.
*Nkuhuma pride of lions consisting of four individuals stationary at Simbambili Dam.

Tuesday, 26 November 2024
*Three Kambula male lions stationary at Mehluane Southern Open Area.
*One Black Dam male lion stationary at Mehluane Northern Open Area.

Wednesday, 27 November 2024
*Three Kambula male lions and five Nkuhuma lioness stationary at Second Windmill.

Thursday, 28 November 2024
*Two Plains Camp male lions mobile South on Elephant Plains Airstrip.

Friday, 29 November 2024
*Three Kambula male lions and one Nkuhuma lioness stationary on Magic Willie.

Saturday, 30 November 2024
*Three Kambula males and one Nkuhuma lioness stationary on Central Junction 15th.

Sunday, 1 December 2024
*Two Ndzhenga male lions stationary North of Londolozi Boundary.

Source: https://elephantplains.co.za/big-5-blog/2024/12/weekly-big-5-sightings-25-november-1-december-2024/ Reply