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(04-23-2024, 10:04 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Londolozi posted this image, asking if anyone can identify these four males. A lot of people saying it is the Majins, but there is a lot of people also saying it is the B-Boys. I am sure someone here can ID them.
From left to right: Hip Scar/Dark-maned, Scarnose laying and Golden mane standing in front
(04-23-2024, 04:18 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Question how is this tsalala girl related to the older two mhangenis the mhangenis girls mother and the tsalala females mother had the same mother or no? Mhangenis from the tsalala pride but it seems every breakaway porter the core pride is doing worse talamati and tsalala
Hi I sometimes forget. What I remember is that the Tsalala lioness mother hopefully resting in peace was a Magingilanes daughter. The Mahangeni pride daughters of the Mapogos who were born in the Tsalala pride also had daughters of the Magingilanes. I get confused, because I sometimes forget the relationship with the Tslalala lionesses, but they were not Mapogo daughters they were the Split Rock male lions daughters; I forget how many lionesses were left after the Mapogo daughters had their cubs, but it was some of the Mhangenies mothers. If they were the Mahangenis mothers than this Tslalala lioness mother was their half sister and or cousin. That makes the Mapogo daughters the two older lionesses their aunt to the Tsalala lioness. The two older daughters of the Mapogo daughters in the Mahangeni pride are daughters of Magingilanes and the youngest one of the pride is a Birmingham daughter like the Tsalala lioness. The Mapogo daughters are the two older lionesses and the grandma of the Tsalala lioness have the same mothers or aunts that are from the Tsalala lionesss but they are only related trough the Tsalala pride.
I knew all that but I believe the 4 original mhangeni girls are from 2 females and their was another older female who took them away from the pride that female was the Tsalala females mothers mother if that makes sense
(04-23-2024, 10:04 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Londolozi posted this image, asking if anyone can identify these four males. A lot of people saying it is the Majins, but there is a lot of people also saying it is the B-Boys. I am sure someone here can ID them.
From left to right: Hip Scar/Dark-maned, Scarnose laying and Golden mane standing in front
On my PC, at 4K resolution made it near impossible for me to make out any of the details. Finally was able to zoom in and see SN's nose much more clearly, there is no mistaking that.
(04-23-2024, 04:18 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Question how is this tsalala girl related to the older two mhangenis the mhangenis girls mother and the tsalala females mother had the same mother or no? Mhangenis from the tsalala pride but it seems every breakaway porter the core pride is doing worse talamati and tsalala
Hi I sometimes forget. What I remember is that the Tsalala lioness mother hopefully resting in peace was a Magingilanes daughter. The Mahangeni pride daughters of the Mapogos who were born in the Tsalala pride also had daughters of the Magingilanes. I get confused, because I sometimes forget the relationship with the Tslalala lionesses, but they were not Mapogo daughters they were the Split Rock male lions daughters; I forget how many lionesses were left after the Mapogo daughters had their cubs, but it was some of the Mhangenies mothers. If they were the Mahangenis mothers than this Tslalala lioness mother was their half sister and or cousin. That makes the Mapogo daughters the two older lionesses their aunt to the Tsalala lioness. The two older daughters of the Mapogo daughters in the Mahangeni pride are daughters of Magingilanes and the youngest one of the pride is a Birmingham daughter like the Tsalala lioness. The Mapogo daughters are the two older lionesses and the grandma of the Tsalala lioness have the same mothers or aunts that are from the Tsalala lionesss but they are only related trough the Tsalala pride.
I knew all that but I believe the 4 original mhangeni girls are from 2 females and their was another older female who took them away from the pride that female was the Tsalala females mothers mother if that makes sense
Yes I will be honest I did not know the exact details. I just remember there was a tailes lioness I think she was sister of Solo and there was an older lioness also tailess? I think I have read before in a comment or somebody has mentioned to me there was another lioness in the Tsalala pride or more but I do not know or remember. I do remember an older lioness tslalal was with the Mapogo daughters until the older lioness returned to the Tsalala lionesses? Hopefully the Tslala lioness can have her cubs and be happy. Hopefully the Plain Camp male lions do not go to far. I had read they were seen with an older Kambula lioness.
Had previously thought this was an old video but been told it’s from today. 3 Kambula males and their sister spotted in Umkumbe, missing male is most likely K4. Interesting that K5 joined K4 in the North with the Nkuhuma lionesses and has seemingly went back to Southern Sabi Sands.
(04-24-2024, 09:10 PM)KM600 Wrote: Had previously thought this was an old video but been told it’s from today. 3 Kambula males and their sister spotted in Umkumbe, missing male is most likely K4. Interesting that K5 joined K4 in the North with the Nkuhuma lionesses and has seemingly went back to Southern Sabi Sands.
So, if the BDM's do return, K4 is out to dry.... uggh... This group is frustrating. hahaha
04-24-2024, 09:44 PM( This post was last modified: 04-24-2024, 09:45 PM by KM600 )
(04-24-2024, 09:25 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:
(04-24-2024, 09:10 PM)KM600 Wrote: Had previously thought this was an old video but been told it’s from today. 3 Kambula males and their sister spotted in Umkumbe, missing male is most likely K4. Interesting that K5 joined K4 in the North with the Nkuhuma lionesses and has seemingly went back to Southern Sabi Sands.
So, if the BDM's do return, K4 is out to dry.... uggh... This group is frustrating. hahaha
I’m more concerned for the 3 Kambula males. I doubt they’re fighting back against both Gijima males if one of them gets caught baring in mind both K5 and K6 were injured previously. This also isn’t the first time K4 has stayed in Northern Sabi Sands by himself with the Nkuhuma lionesses and he hasn’t had an issue yet so in his mind there’s no reason to fear the BDMs. I’m not even sure he acknowledges their presence anymore.
(04-24-2024, 09:10 PM)KM600 Wrote: Had previously thought this was an old video but been told it’s from today. 3 Kambula males and their sister spotted in Umkumbe, missing male is most likely K4. Interesting that K5 joined K4 in the North with the Nkuhuma lionesses and has seemingly went back to Southern Sabi Sands.
So, if the BDM's do return, K4 is out to dry.... uggh... This group is frustrating. hahaha
I’m more concerned for the 3 Kambula males. I doubt they’re fighting back against both Gijima males if one of them gets caught baring in mind both K5 and K6 were injured previously. This also isn’t the first time K4 has stayed in Northern Sabi Sands by himself with the Nkuhuma lionesses and he hasn’t had an issue yet so in his mind there’s no reason to fear the BDMs.
That's the reason for my frustration with this group. They are in danger in the south, really anywhere but where K4 is.
(04-24-2024, 09:25 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: So, if the BDM's do return, K4 is out to dry.... uggh... This group is frustrating. hahaha
I dont think BDMs are problem, they dont look confident atm, I am more concerned about this group again hanging in Gijimas, PCMs and Ndhzengas territory, without their strongest member.
(04-23-2024, 04:18 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Question how is this tsalala girl related to the older two mhangenis the mhangenis girls mother and the tsalala females mother had the same mother or no? Mhangenis from the tsalala pride but it seems every breakaway porter the core pride is doing worse talamati and tsalala
Hi I sometimes forget. What I remember is that the Tsalala lioness mother hopefully resting in peace was a Magingilanes daughter. The Mahangeni pride daughters of the Mapogos who were born in the Tsalala pride also had daughters of the Magingilanes. I get confused, because I sometimes forget the relationship with the Tslalala lionesses, but they were not Mapogo daughters they were the Split Rock male lions daughters; I forget how many lionesses were left after the Mapogo daughters had their cubs, but it was some of the Mhangenies mothers. If they were the Mahangenis mothers than this Tslalala lioness mother was their half sister and or cousin. That makes the Mapogo daughters the two older lionesses their aunt to the Tsalala lioness. The two older daughters of the Mapogo daughters in the Mahangeni pride are daughters of Magingilanes and the youngest one of the pride is a Birmingham daughter like the Tsalala lioness. The Mapogo daughters are the two older lionesses and the grandma of the Tsalala lioness have the same mothers or aunts that are from the Tsalala lionesss but they are only related trough the Tsalala pride.
I knew all that but I believe the 4 original mhangeni girls are from 2 females and their was another older female who took them away from the pride that female was the Tsalala females mothers mother if that makes sense
Yes I will be honest I did not know the exact details. I just remember there was a tailes lioness I think she was sister of Solo and there was an older lioness also tailess? I think I have read before in a comment or somebody has mentioned to me there was another lioness in the Tsalala pride or more but I do not know or remember. I do remember an older lioness tslalal was with the Mapogo daughters until the older lioness returned to the Tsalala lionesses? Hopefully the Tslala lioness can have her cubs and be happy. Hopefully the Plain Camp male lions do not go to far. I had read they were seen with an older Kambula lioness.
They are still young. They still need to learn when to seek out and when to avoid trouble. Whether they learn these lessons well determines wheter or not they will succeed. But most coalitions go through that.
I am kind of worried about K4 learning the wrong lesions though. Each time he experiences some sort of success is when he is split of the group. A group he may feel does not have his back anymore.
#Repost @arathusa_lodge
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A fearsome coalition. The Mantimahle brothers' distinctive darker facial colouring makes it easier to identify them in the bush.
(04-25-2024, 12:31 AM)Timbavati Wrote: #Repost @arathusa_lodge
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A fearsome coalition. The Mantimahle brothers' distinctive darker facial colouring makes it easier to identify them in the bush.
Photo credits: Field Guide Roy
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Are these boys now hanging out in Northern Sabi then? These boys could put a wrecking on all that's up there right now by looks alone.
(04-25-2024, 12:38 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: Are these boys now hanging out in Northern Sabi then? These boys could put a wrecking on all that's up there right now by looks alone.
On eastern border.
But without territorial presence further west of them, they might push there, I mean nothing is stopping them, no roars, no scent marks for months.
