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Lions in South-Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia

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I'm not sure who the third male is, but yeah the two first pics of Hairy belly are amazing.
There was another one that looked cool as well, although it's a little darker.

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But anyway, this lion is beautiful, so he will be a great model for your comparison, Guate.
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Wow, good looking lion.

Put the darker lion too, color is not important among lions populations.

Greetings and thanks. :big-smile:
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He's the same male Guate, it's Hairy belly. I just meant the "darker" part about the lighting, that's all. And yeah, he's magnificent.
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Ohhh, ok.  Wink:

I am going to use this male. Stay tuned this night for the final image.

Greetings and thanks for the help.
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Here you go, here is the comparative image of the South African lions, in its two mayor populations:


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For details, check here: http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-on-the-e...leo?page=2

Greetings.
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Amazing work Guate, thank you.
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( This post was last modified: 10-02-2015, 05:30 AM by Tshokwane )

Ok guys, so I just found this in the Lions of Timbavati facebook page, and it's very, very interesting:
Ximpoko and Mabande. Start the video at 4:30. Mabande weighed 250kgs. Ximpoko = 272kgs. Ximpoko and Mabande are/were the biggest males in the Timbavati.
And they linked this video:



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Why they don't take over the pride of the neighbor lions? Instead they just chased other lion prides away from its kills.
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it's a common behaviour, even when dealing of prides controled by them. When food is concerned, males must have first choice and usually females are smart enough to move out and let them eat.
Within their territory, they will take ownership of any meal they come across, it doesn't matter if it was hunted by other smaller predators or by a pride they control.
Now, taking over the territory of neighbouring lions is a very different thing. It's not an easy task, especially for just two males. They could risk facing a bigger coalition or expand too much and leaving their own prides unprotected.
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Two males have intimated a pride that consists 4 young males and 4 young females, that's incredible amount of power and dominance.
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Some rather large lions. This lends credence to the claim of 250+ kg for the lion weighed (supposedly, as some claim)
a while back in the Timbavati region.
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That male weighed was the Birmigham male(father of the Birmingham males we know today)next partner of Mabande, after Ximpoko was killed, targeted by poachers.
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I see you've done your research. Well done my friend
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( This post was last modified: 10-03-2015, 07:14 AM by peter )

(10-02-2015, 07:11 PM)chaos Wrote: Some rather large lions. This lends credence to the claim of 250+ kg for the lion weighed (supposedly, as some claim)
a while back in the Timbavati region.

Timbavati seems to be a hotspot for some reason. I had a book about the white male Tibavati lion. There was a descendant in a Dutch zoo some years ago. I went over to see him and talked to the vet, who had a special relationship with the lion. I saw him at very close range. Inside, just the three of us. At just over 600 pounds (actual weight), he was huge. Same for the normal coloured male (also from Timbavati). The lionesses were over 350 pounds. All lions were fit.   

There are more hotspots in South Africa. Same for parts of Botswana, Zimbabwe and Zambia. Northern Africa also had very large individuals a century ago. The longest skull I measured was from Ethiopia. Based on what I have, I'd say lions in Zimbabwe, Mocambique (western part) and Zambia could have been the heaviest. South Africa probably tops the list for total length at the level of averages. 

Interesting info, Majingilane. Are you able to get to some conclusions on coalitions? Are there regional differences in size and behaviour? Why is it some coalitions left total destruction? Anything known as to factors that affect behaviour?
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This captive lion also looks like Southwest African, and he weighed about 255 kg during his prime.




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