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(06-26-2014, 11:30 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:
'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:
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'peter dateline='' Wrote: Welcome to the forum Pantherinae. I've been to Sweden many times. Which park did you work in? What animals?
 




 
Thank you! I worked in a zoo called borås! And worked with cheetahs and lions for the most! I have now had a year in Kristiansand animal park with siberian tigers and lions (including the massive male lion Aslan on 255 kg)! 


 



 
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Ahh yeah thats Aslan and the tiger is Ulysses! Big animals! There you see how little difference 50 kg is on these animals looks almost the same! Lion taller! And the same length! [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

 
The tiger is much thinner. You can definitely tell the differnce. 50kg's is alot, especially on a wild animal which carries very little fat. It is 20 percent larger, more or less.
BTW, what type of tiger is Ulysses?
Do you know the ages on both animals as well?


 
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Hi pckts, Ulysses is a 12 year old Siberian tiger, but was 10 when this was filmed! His grand mother was found dead, and his mother was brought to Kiev ZOO ( Ukraine). 

Aslan is 10 now and was 8 then, his father was also found in the wild, in Kenya. 
 
The thing with Aslan is that he is not that fat at all, his step brother Aragon is only 180 kg. And we separate them when feeding, and both gets about the same amount of food! So Aslan is just a rarely big lion. 

They both have big amazing cages, the lions do have about 1 km2, while the tiger has almost 2,5 km2. And the cages looks like siberia and Africa. Can take some pictures when I'm back at work in 10 days if you want? [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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I hope you can get some up close pictures of the animals at the zoo for us! You should put Aslan in the lion directory http://blog.malamala.com/index.php/2012/...mber-2012/

This hunt reminds me of a very young lioness who also killed the kudu bull, I posted that account long long ago, she did it on here own too. However in the hunt, I believe she could have killed it on her own, considering she brought it down by herself. Such an amazing feat for a little lioness.

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Male lion on eland kill.

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~~We were called yesterday by Lion Guardian Masarie who had just come across a huge eland kill, and the tracks of a big male lion. He reported that it was a fresh kill and that not much had been eaten, so we rushed to the scene, hoping to find out who had made this massive kill!When we arrived at the scene we were indeed impressed by the size of the eland that he had brought down and wondered who this strong and powerful lion could be.
"(Eland Weights)The males weigh 400 to 1,000 kg (880 to 2,200 lb) and females weigh 300 to 600 kg (660 to 1,320 lb). "
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'TheLioness dateline='' Wrote: I hope you can get some up close pictures of the animals at the zoo for us! You should put Aslan in the lion directory http://blog.malamala.com/index.php/2012/...mber-2012/

This hunt reminds me of a very young lioness who also killed the kudu bull, I posted that account long long ago, she did it on here own too. However in the hunt, I believe she could have killed it on her own, considering she brought it down by herself. Such an amazing feat for a little lioness.

[img]http://blog.malamala.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/4-The-kudu-had-no-chance-of-escape-Gary-Hill-blog.jpg" class="lozad max-img-size" alt="" title="">
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Male lion on eland kill.

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~~We were called yesterday by Lion Guardian Masarie who had just come across a huge eland kill, and the tracks of a big male lion. He reported that it was a fresh kill and that not much had been eaten, so we rushed to the scene, hoping to find out who had made this massive kill!When we arrived at the scene we were indeed impressed by the size of the eland that he had brought down and wondered who this strong and powerful lion could be.
"(Eland Weights)The males weigh 400 to 1,000 kg (880 to 2,200 lb) and females weigh 300 to 600 kg (660 to 1,320 lb). "

 



That lioness picture with the Kudu is impressive! 
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(06-28-2014, 12:30 AM)'TheLioness' Wrote: http://blog.malamala.com/index.php/2012/...mber-2012/

This hunt reminds me of a very young lioness who also killed the kudu bull, I posted that account long long ago, she did it on here own too. However in the hunt, I believe she could have killed it on her own, considering she brought it down by herself. Such an amazing feat for a little lioness.


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Excellent hunt 
TFS
 
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(06-28-2014, 12:17 AM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: Hi pckts, Ulysses is a 12 year old Siberian tiger, but was 10 when this was filmed! His grand mother was found dead, and his mother was brought to Kiev ZOO ( Ukraine). 

Aslan is 10 now and was 8 then, his father was also found in the wild, in Kenya. 
 
The thing with Aslan is that he is not that fat at all, his step brother Aragon is only 180 kg. And we separate them when feeding, and both gets about the same amount of food! So Aslan is just a rarely big lion. 

They both have big amazing cages, the lions do have about 1 km2, while the tiger has almost 2,5 km2. And the cages looks like siberia and Africa. Can take some pictures when I'm back at work in 10 days if you want? [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

 

Nice info, do you have any other tigers there?
Also, how do you know Ulysses is a pure bred siberian out of curiousity?
I was surprised that Ulysses even weighed that much, compared to the larger captive siberians I have seen, Ulysses seems relatively small bodied and not exceptionally large skulled.
You would obviously know more about him than I, but comparing him to the larger captive Siberians, he seems relatively average but still large for a Siberian in the wild, maybe not in captivity though. You said he was wild gened, maybe the fact that siberians are smaller now, they wild siberians dont get much larger in captivity compared to the older siberian blood lines that may have the old larger siberians genes in them. Who knows, just a guess.

Interesting that Aslan is 70kgs larger than his brother and they are fed the same? Not sure how that could work considering you need more nutrients and calories to sustain a higher BM.

Thanks for the info, regardless.

 
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'Pckts dateline='' Wrote:
'Pantherinae dateline='' Wrote: Hi pckts, Ulysses is a 12 year old Siberian tiger, but was 10 when this was filmed! His grand mother was found dead, and his mother was brought to Kiev ZOO ( Ukraine). 

Aslan is 10 now and was 8 then, his father was also found in the wild, in Kenya. 
 
The thing with Aslan is that he is not that fat at all, his step brother Aragon is only 180 kg. And we separate them when feeding, and both gets about the same amount of food! So Aslan is just a rarely big lion. 

They both have big amazing cages, the lions do have about 1 km2, while the tiger has almost 2,5 km2. And the cages looks like siberia and Africa. Can take some pictures when I'm back at work in 10 days if you want? 
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this is Ulysses
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Some more pictures of him i had on my phone! He is quite big compared to his female. 

 
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Beautiful. I envy your job! Always wanted to be apart of big animals. Your very lucky person.
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Awesome, thank you soo much Pantherinae, those images are great. 
TFS

Any chance we could see some of the 270kg est. Tiger, whenever you have the time?

Also, Is Ulysses a big framed cat?
He seems relatively "skinny" but must be a large framed cat to weigh that much. 
The Lion must look like a tank. 
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'Pckts dateline='' Wrote: Awesome, thank you soo much Pantherinae, those images are great. 
TFS

Any chance we could see some of the 270kg est. Tiger, whenever you have the time?

Also, Is Ulysses a big framed cat?
He seems relatively "skinny" but must be a large framed cat to weigh that much. 
The Lion must look like a tank. 

 



Hi Pckts glad you liked those pictures. Ulysses is indeed very big framed he has a son called rex who weigh the same, but is much smaller. 

When it comes to the 270 kg tiger, he is not in the animal park i work in, but he is in a danish zoo. The workers there told me he was 270, and he was very, very big framed, and had a massive head. I have one picture here and I'm gonna try to find some more 
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Thats the picture of the 270kg Tiger?

I must say, its nice to have easy access to somebody who works in a park with these animals, I look forward to discussing more with you. 
Thanks again
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'Pckts dateline='' Wrote: Thats the picture of the 270kg Tiger?

I must say, its nice to have easy access to somebody who works in a park with these animals, I look forward to discussing more with you. 
Thanks again

 

He's an old tiger now, but definatly still a big tiger, I do have a picture of him in a book when he was younger. I will try to find the book and take a picture of it! :-) me too you do seem to have a great knowledge about cat's :-)
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Young male leopard killed by male lion in Krüger National Park  

 
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