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Lion Predation

United States Pckts Offline
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(08-11-2014, 04:59 AM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: I don't understand you're attack again? 

It's not about that I don't can admit that The gaur did not attack Raja The thing is I can't see it! I can't understand that absolute stupid claim You came with right there, that is just silly how can You call that not admitting anything!  

Also rhino and elephant predation is Nothing wrong with me not beliveing as you're proof is not proof enough for me... because it's not real proof. And IMO tigers killing rhinos and elephant are just not true, but again that's my opinion... Not trying to make You belive me, but that's my opinion! 

It was cape and gaur! Which was an comparison I did not make.. And it seemed right from my sighting's of The animals, but sure there are bigger gaur's and they I can't comment about.... 

also I can't say anything more on The bamera wagdoh case.. I said The things about bamera from my own experience when I saw him, but I will not post The pictures so let's forget that since I cannot prove it and than I will not comment more on that since You know what that will turn out.. Also wagdoh that was never ment as an insult, I said What other people had told me and if I'm wrong sorry 
But we can agree that ther do exist taller and longer tigers than wagdoh. 

Well is it not obvious attack an animal from ambush will have more advantages than hunting an animal standing it's ground... Also The thing with The large bull attacked, The tiger lost it The moment of surprise and did not manage to kill it.  

And yes this is an insult, You should not be The one to talk I was looking on pictures on AVA forum and The sometimes disrespectfull comments about Lions from You where shoocking.. I guess you're name there was pckts. 

 

 

"Also The thing with The large bull attacked, The tiger lost it The moment of surprise and did not manage to kill it"
They were heard fighting all night I believe.

You denying actual reports of tigers attacking elephant and rhino is questionable as well.
Tiger Injures female elephant and kills Calf 

Dehradun, Jan 21,2010 (PTI)
 A tiger killed a seven-month-old elephant calf at Dhikala range of Corbett Tiger Reserve, officials said today. 

The incident took place yesterday when the calf was roaming around with his mother and suddenly attacked by the wild cat, they said. 

The female elephant was also injured in the attack when she tried to save the calf. 

The elephant and her calf were apparently got separated from their herd when the incident occurred, they said. 

http://www.ptinews.com/ne...iger-kills-elephant-calf 
 
 
[font]Kaziranga tiger attack bull elephant[/font] 

http://animalvsanimal.yuku.com/topic/309...-gBqygSo20
Last night, a Royal Bengal tiger that sneaked into the swamp a couple of days back, attacked a bull elephant after killing a buffalo.Villagers spotted the critically injured elephant this morning and informed the forest department, another forest official said."The tiger that killed two persons in Lakhimpur district a fortnight back, has crossed the Brahmaputra and is taking shelter in the swamp with the elephants."http://www.telegraphindia...heast/story_11908740.jsp 
http://www.google.com/search?q=tiger+predation+on+elephant&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=pgHoU_-0MIuBogSX0oGYBg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1178&bih=664#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=aIzH315eNfrF9M%253A%3BehOF2ilbCZjeCM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.corkscrew-balloon.com%252Fpolo%252F95%252Fimg%252Finjury.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fanimalsversesanimals.yuku.com%252Ftopic%252F3273%252FTiger-Predation%3B583%3B385
Another Tusker attacked and being treated by Forrest Gaurds.

These are just a few btw.

And yes, My name is Pckts on every forum. I don't make multiple accounts and use alias's. [img]images/smilies/dodgy.gif[/img]

Pantherinae, I don't care to debate with somebody who refuses actual events for the sake of being right. I posted the stories, links and images, feel free to call the forrest department and tell them that you don't believe tigers attack elephant and their reports are lies. I am done with this nonsense. 

 


 
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Again pckts those rhinos are not The same.. 


 

 
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Again I'm right at this one...
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Deny, deny, deny...
Show one blurry picture that is the same Rhino and try to use it as the rule for all?
What about the reports posted, you are just going to continue to turn a blind eye to that as well? 

You're obviously wrong and unable to admit it. I'm done with this, Jubatus.... sorry.
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'Pckts dateline='' Wrote: Deny, deny, deny...
Show one blurry picture that is the same Rhino and try to use it as the rule for all?
What about the reports posted, you are just going to continue to turn a blind eye to that as well? 

You're obviously wrong and unable to admit it. I'm done with this, Jubatus.... sorry.
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Again no class at all, 

you deny this one! Either that or You can't tell animals appart.. 

Haha jubatus again thanks.. So that's you're game everytime someone says against You. We are having fake accounts. Pure class.. 


 
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Still no response to the accounts provided,
How strange. [img]images/smilies/sleepy.gif[/img]
Almost as strange as yours and Jubatus exact same join date and "shared eye witness" accounts.

They are the same rhino and it shows on vid. Your "neck flap" claim last time was real convincing, I surprised you abandoned that conspiracy theory. But either way, that is one event. Just one, out of numerous accounts. Not sure why you have latched on to it but it does nothing to change the fact that multiple events have been documented. 

Lets just leave it at this, you'll never accept it and I'm ok with it. 






 
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'Pckts dateline='' Wrote: Still no response to the accounts provided,
How strange. [img]images/smilies/sleepy.gif[/img]
Almost as strange as yours and Jubatus exact same join date and "shared eye witness" accounts.

They are the same rhino and it shows on vid. Your "neck flap" claim last time was real convincing, I surprised you abandoned that conspiracy theory. But either way, that is one event. Just one, out of numerous accounts. Not sure why you have latched on to it but it does nothing to change the fact that multiple events have been documented. 

Lets just leave it at this, you'll never accept it and I'm ok with it. 






 

 

Yeah right the neck crest was way bigger on The other rhino.. The thing is that You see it aswell that's The problem.. You can't admit that.... 

Still eye witneses accounts are very reliable.... One guy said he saw a king fisher killing an eagle.. So that must have happend! 


 
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The rhinos appear different, most people on th actual video responded that it was due to other rhinos, not the tiger.

I'd advise you guys to just post lion hunting pictures, your getting way off topic.
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This is going no where. So stick to the topic.
Regarding the accounts of Tiger predation on elephants and rhinos are indeed reliable.
These incidents were reported by Forest Officials, Chief conservator of the Reserve, Chief wildlife warden, NTCA officials, District forest officers, Government approved veterinarians, Deputy director, mahaouts etc.
These officials have to present detailed reports on such incidents to the government.
Dudhwa Tiger Reserve officials have requested to conduct a study on increased tiger predation on adult rhinoes. 
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(08-10-2014, 01:05 AM)Jinenfordragon Wrote:
(08-09-2014, 06:51 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:



 

amazing lion takedown! Buffalo bull brought down with ease by two crater male Lions! 

 
Oldies but goodies.
I love how male lions face their prey in the open, sometimes they strafe left and right but still  prefer a ''domination game'', always imposing a bold posture, in comparison with other cats huntning style which are based on the element of surprise,''only''.
The reason why a Ngorongoro male would probably wreck any big cat in his path.


 

Jinen is typical example of a troll - immature loser suffering from inferiority complex (he is said to be extremely short). He just tries to raise his self-esteem by (virtual) provocations like this...while his real life is going nowhere. I would consider it sad...if I cared...


http://pvewood.blogspot.cz/2013/05/roman...es-in.html
 
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'Apollo dateline='' Wrote: This is going no where. So stick to the topic.
Regarding the accounts of Tiger predation on elephants and rhinos are indeed reliable.
These incidents were reported by Forest Officials, Chief conservator of the Reserve, Chief wildlife warden, NTCA officials, District forest officers, Government approved veterinarians, Deputy director, mahaouts etc.
These officials have to present detailed reports on such incidents to the government.
Dudhwa Tiger Reserve officials have requested to conduct a study on increased tiger predation on adult rhinoes.  

 
Sorry @Apollo, but that's not enough proof, one guy from Kaziranga said that female tigers with Cubs killed rhinos because she did wanna be away from her cubs.. That's silly a tigress really.. Also do they think a tiger can kill a rhino on such short time... 

Also I have never heard a wild-life vet comfirming a adult rhino killed by a tiger. There's no proof apollo
 
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(08-11-2014, 01:59 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:
'Apollo dateline='' Wrote: This is going no where. So stick to the topic.
Regarding the accounts of Tiger predation on elephants and rhinos are indeed reliable.
These incidents were reported by Forest Officials, Chief conservator of the Reserve, Chief wildlife warden, NTCA officials, District forest officers, Government approved veterinarians, Deputy director, mahaouts etc.
These officials have to present detailed reports on such incidents to the government.
Dudhwa Tiger Reserve officials have requested to conduct a study on increased tiger predation on adult rhinoes.  


 
Sorry @Apollo, but that's not enough proof, one guy from Kaziranga said that female tigers with Cubs killed rhinos because she did wanna be away from her cubs.. That's silly a tigress really.. Also do they think a tiger can kill a rhino on such short time... 

Also I have never heard a wild-life vet comfirming a adult rhino killed by a tiger. There's no proof apollo
 

 


Each tiger, rhino, elephant deaths (the ones identified) were examined and investigated.
This involves not only the forest officials but also personnels from other departments like NTCA (for tigers), government approved wildlife vets etc.
The detailed report with proper proof on the animals death as to be presented (oldage, poaching, infighting, predation etc)
By default all these animal deaths were considered due to poaching unless the report says otherwise.
This is a procedure being followed for some time.
The wildlife ministry maintains a database on this.
There is a big war going on between the forest guards and poachers in Northeast India.




http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ot...301585.ece

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/one-hu...120929.htm

 
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(08-11-2014, 01:59 PM)'Pantherinae' Wrote:
'Apollo dateline='' Wrote: This is going no where. So stick to the topic.
Regarding the accounts of Tiger predation on elephants and rhinos are indeed reliable.
These incidents were reported by Forest Officials, Chief conservator of the Reserve, Chief wildlife warden, NTCA officials, District forest officers, Government approved veterinarians, Deputy director, mahaouts etc.
These officials have to present detailed reports on such incidents to the government.
Dudhwa Tiger Reserve officials have requested to conduct a study on increased tiger predation on adult rhinoes.  


 
Sorry @Apollo, but that's not enough proof, one guy from Kaziranga said that female tigers with Cubs killed rhinos because she did wanna be away from her cubs.. That's silly a tigress really.. Also do they think a tiger can kill a rhino on such short time... 

Also I have never heard a wild-life vet comfirming a adult rhino killed by a tiger. There's no proof apollo
 

 
"theres no proof"
LUCKNOW: Have Dudhwa tigers shunned their preferred prey - the cheetals and sambhars - to hunt the mighty rhinos? The killing of a 35-year-old female rhino by a tiger in Dudhwa national park and the subsequent eating of the carcass has raised a doubt if the behaviour of Dudhwa tigers is changing. The experts are not ready to buy the argument that the declining prey base is the reason why tigers are hunting and eating rhinos.

"If tiger population in the park is increasing, prey base can not decline," said Tito Joseph from the wildlife protection society of India ( WPSI). The tiger sneaked into the rhino rehabilitation area to kill the 35-year-old female rhino Pavitri, brought to Dudhwa in 1984 under the rhino rehabilitation programme. This was the fifth attack since November last year on rhinos by tigers in Dudhwa. In the past one year, two rhinos have been killed by tigers and one has rescued by the park administration in Dudhwa. The feline attacks on rhinos aren't rare. But, in most of the incidents, it's the cubs which are killed.

Contrary to this, it was an adult female rhino killed this time. Is it the same tiger which is killing rhinos? Is the attacking feline old? Bibhav Taluqdar, who chairs International Union for Conservation of Nature Asian rhino specialist group, said Dudhwa authorities should try to find answers to such questions in case the attacks are rampant. "It's not rare that tigers kill and eat rhino. Rhino comes as an easy hunt for a tiger who can not chase a deer," he said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/...282354.cms



"Tigers eating rhino, experts feel, is not bewildering. "Rhino is not a preferred prey for tigers but once killed, tigers can eat it," said Joseph. DEPUTY DIRECTOR, Dudhwa Ganesh Bhatt said,

This is as reliable as it gets.

And more"A tiger sneaked into the Rhino rehabilitation area in Dudhwa tiger reserve (DTR) on Monday and killed a 34-year female rhino. The partially eaten carcass of “Pavitri” was discovered on Tuesday. AdvertisementThis was the fifth Rhino attacked in 14 months. All the attacks took place in winter. Over November and December 2011 and January 2012, four rhinos were attacked. Two were injured, two died. This was the first attack this winter.Similar incidents have been reported from Nepal’s Chitwan Park, said Shailesh Prasad, chief conservator of forest and field director of DTR."

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news...03637.aspx


Whether Rhino or Elephant, you have confirmed attacks, kills, predation etc.
From Field Directors, deputy directors, vets etc.
Like Apollo has shown or my self, these are facts.



 
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and btw, its the same Rhino in the Video.
Heres the original version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY4C_hxFNXE

They have the exact same horn size, "neck flap" etc.
There is absolutely no way you can distinguish for certainity that it is not the same Rhino with the naked eye.
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Is this not a LION predation thread?
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