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Large male tigers from India (Videos Only)

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surviving on his own even at this old age without any assistance and live baits! he set the bar so high, what he has accomplished in his life is unheard of in the world of tigers. having sired over 40 cubs and surviving to 17-18 years of age in the wild. a true legend !
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( This post was last modified: 05-10-2021, 04:31 PM by Ashutosh )

@Roflcopters, Waghdoh isn’t the only one. I posted about Betal aka T3 of Panna in the Tiger Directory thread couple of days ago. He has also fathered over 40 cubs and in conservation terms matters more than any male tiger in the last decade.

He was seen with a gash on his legs pushed into the tourism zone. He is 17+ as well. The Karai Ghati male from Kanha will most probably be the same age as well.

Speaking of Waghdoh, do you know who are his male cubs other than Shiva? I have never heard of any male tiger being his son which is strange.
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( This post was last modified: 05-10-2021, 11:51 PM by Roflcopters )

i disagree with the T3 statement, Bajrang of Tadoba has sired more cubs than any male known to us presently. he has sired around 50 + cubs with 9 different tigresses. that’s the most any male tiger has ever produced in my last decade of following tigers. Wagdoh, T3 and B2 are all pretty close. i would even add Star male of Tipeshwar to the list and Raiyakassa male of Pench, MP. 

Wagdoh’s male cubs, most of them when they were sub-adults mostly moved out of Tadoba. never to be seen again. most likely in search for territory, they are probably somewhere in Brahmapuri forest or the areas beyond. Shiva is the only one that stayed around.
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Bajrang may have fathered more cubs, but T3 revived an entire tiger reserve. Panna has 50 odd tigers, more than 60% are his progeny and about 10 or so have made journeys to other parks. That’s why he is the most important male tiger of the last decade.Would Tadoba be flourishing without Bajrang? Sure. Would Panna make the remarkable comeback without T3? You know the answer.

And, just like Waghdoh, he is very old, and still alive and kicking.
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two different tigers with different roles, ultimately the goal was the same. to rule and spread their legendary genes. T3 was a tiger that was introduced to Panna with the intention of growing the tiger population since the original gene-pool went locally extinct. he played a huge part for Panna, a legend in his own right. in his beginning days, T3 for years had almost no competition since there wasn’t any other tigers around. Bajrang came from a park where most sub-adults are hardly ever seen in their adult stages. competition is far more fierce, higher density of tigers. larger population means more conflict for space, which for the most part has been limited everywhere in Tadoba. despite all the odds, Bajrang has remained a force for quite sometime. he has been seen around majority of the territories known to us. from Moharli, Teliya, Junona buffer, Dewada buffer, Jamni, Khutwanda, Wagdoh area, Fire line and all the way to Kolara buffer. each of these areas are ruled by multiple females but there is one male that rules it all. with the exception of Kolara buffer. Bajrang has ruled all those areas and has a record of mating with 8 different females in the same season. for him to turn up with 50+ cubs is far more impressive than what T3 has done. even by numbers. Bajrang has him beat. 2014-2021 (this is all the time, it took for a male to sire 50 + cubs in one of the busiest park vs T3, who has been around since late 2009 and has a official record of siring close to 36-40 cubs since 2009-2021. it’s not even close. if Bajrang has a couple more seasons left in him. he will be setting new records.


Quote:Would Panna make the remarkable comeback without T3? you know the answer


who knows, T3 was randomly selected for the project and he turned out to be a spectacular specimen. capable of pulling it off and i have no doubt, if given the chance. any other male could’ve probably pulled it off. you can’t underestimate tigers. each individual has a lot to offer if given the opportunity. just my two cents. 
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( This post was last modified: 05-12-2021, 07:05 AM by Ashutosh )

@Roflcopters, Firstly, T3 wasn’t randomly selected. There were certain criteria that Panna Reserve director and NTCA had put forth, and he matched those. You say any other tiger could have done the same that T3 did, except we do have Sariska as a parallel example. Has any Sariska male have done what T3 did?

Secondly, you talked about the competition for Bajrang and lack of it for T3 and how he mated with 8 tigresses in a year. Fair point. But, even you would agree that it much easier to father cubs in a populated park than a deserted park on account of there being considerably less breeding females. T3 fathered cubs in a park with an almost non-existent population. Ask yourself this: How long did it take Panna to even get 8 breeding females? T1 and T2 were excellent in breeding but not T4 and T5. T5 only raised 1 cub. And, T4 died while raising her 3rd litter having abandoned her second litter. Unless he mated with his own progeny, he had to wait for other females to father his litter that is not an issue for Bajrang who had a park with over 50 females, while T3 had 2 to begin with.

Finally, you are counting the number of cubs of Bajrang as those he sired, I am counting T3’s numbers as those who made it to adulthood. Bajrang’s cub numbers who made it to adulthood would be lower than 40 that T3 managed. Not to mention, there were rumours that he had fathered a litter back in Pench, that is why he was going back.

This is a very similar situation to deciding who is more important to conservation : T15 aka Collarwali of Pench who raised 26 cubs or T2 of Panna who has raised 21 cubs.
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( This post was last modified: 05-14-2021, 01:16 AM by Roflcopters )

i don’t mean to be rude but i have no idea what you’re talking about, i only jumped into the debate to counter your claims of T3 having the most cubs. something that you mentioned in another thread as well, which clearly isn’t the case. you’re still new and your lack of understanding is blatantly obvious. i can’t continue any further. it’s a waste of time.
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( This post was last modified: 05-14-2021, 01:50 AM by Ashutosh )

@Roflcopters, you need to go back and read again. I never said anything about “most cubs”. I said “most important male in terms of conservation in the last decade”.

My exact quote: “He is 17 years old now, but, still looks decent. Very few tigers can claim to have fathered over 40 cubs.“

So, before you accuse me of all kinds of things, how about you read what I wrote again?
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Handsome, Pench.

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Bajrang, Bandhavgarh.

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Big Bandipur male

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Yuvraj T67 kanha national park mp Nov 2020



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