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( This post was last modified: 12-26-2019, 02:01 PM by Shadow )

(12-26-2019, 10:42 AM)John Opiyo Wrote: I like the rules. The challenge I expect is that nature lovers at times think more with their hearts and not the mind. I will give an example. In the conflict between big cats and livestock farmers, farmers will at times kill the big cats to protect their livestock. When this gets out, people will curse the farmers and call them names, serious insults. Their hearts are at work at this time. However, the mind should tell them a few things. First, they are thousands of miles away and could not do anything at that time to save the cats. Secondly, calling people names could stir them against the cats even more. Lastly, had these people mean to kill the cats, non could have been in existence today because they have kept livestock in the range lands for very many years. The light however is that, after an incidence like that, people can brainstorm on what to do to avert similar situations in future. In such a debate, I would expect a lot of heat but/and objectivity to win. Rules bring order and I will stick with the rules.

You are right in it, that it´s so easy to blame other people, especially when sitting in some "ivory tower" so, that him- herself has everything ok, seeing some big predator only in documentaries and maybe as a tourist while participating to some organized and safe trip with cameras and really nothing to worry about. Same time there are people, who need to work for their living with livestock and deal with dangers concerning tigers and lions.

One interesting part is, that with what justification people from Europe and let´s say North-America are complaining. Central-Europe... there aren´t too many predators left, where are the wolves and bears? And so many other animals... people who won´t tolerate big predators among themselves should have a moment and think if they really should be so loud to judge others, when they have massacred their own fauna to extinction concerning so many species. Noth America and USA especially have pushed for instance brown bears and wolves to way smaller range than before. Luckily for these species there is Alaska and of course big neighbor Canada. When looking at lower 48 it´s ruthless, livestock is there priority 1 also and big predators have been killed. Then we have sad story of bison... etc. 

These are interesting things, without Russia most probably Finland wouldn´t have nowadays bears and wolves, in past we hunted these species to almost extinction here. Nowadays things are better, but a lot of work to do still. Reindeer owners, if up to them, would shoot any bear, wolf and wolverine on sight, especially wolves and wolverines. A lot of hate and heated discussions happen here too (Finland), when these animals are discussed.

It´s challenging to find ways to live side by side with big predators, but hopefully good solutions can be found, while some individuals have to be killed sometimes in order to protect livestock and people. Finding certain kind of balance is difficult, but worth to try. Same thing as what comes to discussions here. I hope, that you like it here and can share your thoughts.
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( This post was last modified: 02-26-2020, 11:47 PM by Shadow )

Lately in some occasions there have been a little bit things like "if this would be about a lion, then you would...." or "if this would be about a tiger, then you would....". It´s no secret, that people have preferences, that´s ok, there is nothing wrong in it. As long as it doesn´t lead to dismissing other animals in demeaning way or mocking others.

When in some thread there is criticism and/or debates, if your first idea is to start mocking or writing in a way I described above, take a deep breath, count to ten and think before writing. Don´t get offended like there would be some personal insult, when something you say is questioned. People simply can see things differently without nothing dramatic there.

Moderators will act if someone starts to disrespect some animal in wildfact. No matter if it´s a tiger, a lion or a horse. Or whatever. If not right away (not noticed it yet for some reason), you can report a posting which you think to be offending/insulting in a wrong kind of way. That´s much better than diving into some argument so that heartbeat rate is 200 times/minute.

Things have been ok for quite some time and looking good. So let´s keep it this way. When new members join in, remember that this isn´t a tiger forum, not a lion forum or a bear forum. All animals are respected and that is expected. And also taken care that it stay in that way. So you don´t need to be worried for your favorite animal here. Stay calm and focus to good information.
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( This post was last modified: 02-27-2020, 12:06 AM by peter )

Agreed in all respects.  

This is a forum about those who make their home in the natural world, not us. 

Preference is a great drive, provided you use it to find good information. 

And remember reality always beats fiction.
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Hello Dr Peter I am new to this forum.
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Reality indeed beats fiction I like your quotes dr.
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Everyone, we have seen a recent increase in people making the same post in multiple threads, especially when posting videos. The purposes for doing this can be varied, examples would be padding post counts, or attempting to increase views of your personal channel/page on another site.

As a result, the Wildfact Team have discussed this issue, and we are going to officially request that all users refrain from doing this. Please identify the thread you believe to be most pertinent to your particular post, and make the post in a single location only.

Anyone who is observed doing this will be banned. The only exception to this will be when marketing the Wildfact site, once it has been discussed with a member of the team.

Thank you for your continued cooperation, and do continue to enjoy the site!!
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( This post was last modified: 02-25-2023, 09:49 AM by sanjay Edit Reason: Added peter's message as well )

Due to multiple instances of users bringing troubles from other sites to Wildfact, we are implementing a new rule. 

From this point forward, every member of Wildfact importing problems created at other forums will be permanently banned right away.

TO ALL MEMBERS WHO JOINED ANOTHER FORUM
from peter:
I'm not sure, but my guess is quite a few members of Wildfact joined another forum. Over there, some of them end up in 'debates'. Not seldom, these debates get out of hand. The most common result is animosity. Every now and then, it is moved to Wildfact. As it takes quite a bit of time to solve the problems deposited at the plate of the administrators and mods of Wildfact, a decision had to be taken.

Meaning it stops right here. From now on, every member of Wildfact importing problems created at other forums will be permanently banned right away.
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Agree with @BA0701. Good job!
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Everyone, moving forward, we are requesting everyone to make their posts in English. If you do not know English, some of us can help you in using an online translator, if needed. This will aid in getting more, and quicker, responses to your posts. Posts made in any language, other than English will be deleted, and repeated violations can lead to banning. 

Please contact a member of the Mod team if you have any questions, or need any help. Thank you for your continued cooperation, so that everyone can continue to enjoy the site!!
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( This post was last modified: 04-01-2023, 06:55 PM by Timbavati )

 Everyone
As a result of some things that have come up recently, and after discussions amongst the Wildfact Team, we felt it necessary to bring this up. If a user is banned, or chooses to leave the forum for their own personal reasons, we are unable to delete or remove posts made by their account. While there can be several reasons for this, the primary reason would be the continuity of the site and historical accuracy. If a user is involved in a conversation, and then their comments are removed from that conversation, it will be very difficult, and in some cases impossible, for a new user, or someone simply going back through a thread, to follow along with that particular conversation. Therefore it is Wildfact policy that no such comments are able to be removed.

Thank you everyone for the continued cooperation, and do continue enjoy the site! 
Regards Timbavati
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Hello I am new to this wildfact... I agree to follow the forum rules
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(06-28-2023, 03:49 PM)Zigzag Wrote: Hello I am new to this wildfact... I agree to follow the forum rules

Hello I can't reply or unable to post anything... Someone plz help me
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As a result of some recent confusion, we believe we should clarify the rules regarding new thread creation in the Lion section. In a majority of instances, it is likely a thread already exists for the topic a member may wish to discuss. So, we would ask that prior to creating a new thread all users verify that a thread pertaining to your desired topic does not already exists. In the rare instances that such a thread does not already exists, please check with any member of the Mod Team before creating a new thread. Any new threads created without this prior approval will be deleted, and repeated infractions to this rule can result in a member being placed on the Watch List, or even banned.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter, we in the Mod Team hope for your continued enjoyment of WildFact
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(08-29-2023, 09:23 AM)Timbavati Wrote: All
As a result of some recent confusion, we believe we should clarify the rules regarding new thread creation in the Lion section. In a majority of instances, it is likely a thread already exists for the topic a member may wish to discuss. So, we would ask that prior to creating a new thread all users verify that a thread pertaining to your desired topic does not already exists. In the rare instances that such a thread does not already exists, please check with any member of the Mod Team before creating a new thread. Any new threads created without this prior approval will be deleted, and repeated infractions to this rule can result in a member being placed on the Watch List, or even banned.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter, we in the Mod Team hope for your continued enjoyment of WildFact
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Great job @Timbavati!
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