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(09-16-2022, 11:21 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: The 2 Afsaal males, if im not wrong, have not been seen for a long time. Any updates?

Posted to fb yesterday

South Shishangeni male with his friend east bank male

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(09-16-2022, 09:13 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: @Ngonya  That is when T was still alive in Feb 2022

Yes, my bad, when i realized about it (reading on facebook), i was already leaving my house, i came back just now, but yes, it is from february, thank you and i am sorry
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(09-17-2022, 02:56 AM)Ngonya Wrote:
(09-16-2022, 09:13 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: @Ngonya  That is when T was still alive in Feb 2022

Yes, my bad, when i realized about it (reading on facebook), i was already leaving my house, i came back just now, but yes, it is from february, thank you and i am sorry

No worries, it happens, especially when the poster of these images in other venues doesn't insert the date the image was captured. We've all been caught by the same thing.
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( This post was last modified: 09-17-2022, 02:49 PM by Brahim )

In that sighting recently posted by @criollo2mil Afsaal males were chasing those 4 jock breakaway boys, but they didn't catch them.
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(09-17-2022, 02:48 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: In that sighting recently posted by @criollo2mil Afsaal males were chasing those 4 jock breakaway boys, but they didn't catch them.

how manys sons did mpond male sired ?
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Mpondo males took the territory of jock and Afsaal in November 2019. At this time, the 2 Thompson/Jhosekulu males already had cubs with the jock pride and they all left the area when 4 or 5 Mpondos came in, including the Jock girls and cubs (sired by Thompson males). I remember this and also read the updates from 2019 recently. 

If these 4 boys are born before November 2019 then they are not Mpondo sons
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(09-17-2022, 10:19 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: If these 4 boys are born before November 2019 then they are not Mpondo sons

Yea, based of this, these guys should not be Mpondo sons, although i dont know where Jock Breakaway's are located or when Mpondos mated with them. 

I know there is one young male, son of Thompson males from Jock pride (not sure his current status).
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(09-17-2022, 10:56 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(09-17-2022, 10:19 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: If these 4 boys are born before November 2019 then they are not Mpondo sons

Yea, based of this, these guys should not be Mpondo sons, although i dont know where Jock Breakaway's are located or when Mpondos mated with them. 

I know there is one young male, son of Thompson males from Jock pride (not sure his current status).

did mpond males father any sons ?
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Vurhami S28 male, looking better :

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(09-18-2022, 12:32 AM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:
(09-17-2022, 10:56 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(09-17-2022, 10:19 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: If these 4 boys are born before November 2019 then they are not Mpondo sons

Yea, based of this, these guys should not be Mpondo sons, although i dont know where Jock Breakaway's are located or when Mpondos mated with them. 

I know there is one young male, son of Thompson males from Jock pride (not sure his current status).

did mpond males father any sons ?

They do not have many sons that we know of, 3 Renosterkoppies males were thought to be their sons, but then we discovered 2 of them actually came from N’was pride so are brothers to N’was males from Sabi Sands. Which means 1/3 Renosterkoppies is the only son I know of. They probably should have more sons from Renosterkoppies and Mpondo prides.
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did Nsemani male ( senior mbiri) and rockfig partner still alive ?
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( This post was last modified: 09-19-2022, 03:40 PM by Brahim )

@Mdz123 That one Renosterkoppies is not theirs also, likely sired by the 5 old Jocks due to timing and he is spitting image of one of the old jocks.
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The one sub male in Jock pride is definitely son of Thompson males, but apparently the 4 Jock breakaway males are sons of Mpondos. They were fathered by the collared lioness and when the Mpondos moved north the lioness and the 4 followed them. Not sure when they were sired by Mpondo males il have to ask the rangers, but Mpo dos were at Jock early 2019, I know Thompson males held onto later that year, but they were constantly moving south avoiding Mpondos and one or 2 lioness broke off to mate with them, that's what Jock says anyway.
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(09-19-2022, 03:38 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: The one sub male in Jock pride is definitely son of Thompson males, but apparently the 4 Jock breakaway males are sons of Mpondos. They were fathered by the collared lioness and when the Mpondos moved north the lioness and the 4 followed them. Not sure when they were sired by Mpondo males il have to ask the rangers, but Mpo dos were at Jock early 2019, I know Thompson males held onto later that year, but they were constantly moving south avoiding Mpondos and one or 2 lioness broke off to mate with them, that's what Jock says anyway

Yea, it could be that Mpondos mated with some lioness before late 2019.
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All 3 Lower Sabie males couple months back.
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