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(02-05-2022, 01:58 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Imbali Coalition.
" 3 males on road between Skukuza and Tshokwane H1-2, early morning 23 JAN" Credit: Ronel Smith
Great sighting, we finally see those 3 together.
Looks like that "next young generation" of Kruger coalitions in southern region is all about trios : 3 Imbalis, Mazithi/Tshokwanes, Renosterkoppies, Phabenis, Biyamitis, Fourways/Torchwood, Lower Sabie males etc.
It will be interesting to follow them in upcoming years.
(02-06-2022, 06:38 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Golden Mopani males are alive! Two seen near Mopani. Including the snared one . Feb 4th 2022. Credit : Philip Nichols
Great to see them alive! How many months were they missing, and was third male also seen?
02-06-2022, 08:09 PM( This post was last modified: 02-06-2022, 08:10 PM by Mdz123 )
Dark Mane with his sister in 2009, seen at S34/S36. This area was Robson territory at the time so maybe the Majingilanes were actually sired by Stompie and 1eye
02-06-2022, 08:14 PM( This post was last modified: 02-06-2022, 08:40 PM by lionuk )
(02-06-2022, 08:05 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: Great to see them alive! How many months were they missing, and was third male also seen?
The two males, five months and the snared one got horribly snared last July/August, until last Friday, he hadn't been seen since that incident. So happy to see them again.
(02-06-2022, 08:05 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: Great to see them alive! How many months were they missing, and was third male also seen?
The two males, five months and the snared one got horribly snared last July/August, until last Friday, he hadn't been seen since that incident. So happy to see them again.
That's fabulous! The snared one looks like the snare almost cut him in half. I hope his range of motion is good and he can hunt well. So sad about #3. Maybe he will still turn up. I sincerely hope so!
These two don't look as bulky in these pictures as they once did. Maybe lying low has been hard on them as well as losing their pride and cubs. Maybe in time things will get better for them.
Those poachers upset the whole balance of things.
(02-06-2022, 08:09 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: Dark Mane with his sister in 2009, seen at S34/S36. This area was Robson territory at the time so maybe the Majingilanes were actually sired by Stompie and 1eye
Credits: Ahmed Odinia
Yeah, I have also read about a lot of .
But the mathematics don't go that way.
In April 2003 two male cubs were born into the Othawa pride. They were sired by the 3 males of the Split Rock coalition (Scar, Tyson & 3rd male) who gave safety and stability.
In January 2005 thins changed dramatically: The Split Rock males were fighting the Rollercoaster males over months for dominance of Sparta pride. The Othawa pride was unprotected and on its own. An unknown male took the chance to the lead the pride. Nhlanguleni was first seen in the west around March 2005, he was found in the river mating with one of the Ottawa lionesses, close to Ottawa camp. He was often on his own but started spending more time with one half of the Ottawas after the cubs were born, the other half- 2 lionesses, the 2 young males Stompie and 1eye and a young female stayed away from him.
The young Othawa males stayed under the protection of their mothers until the arrival of the 6 Mapogo males by beginning of 2006.
Stompie and 1eye left their natal pride and were now called the Robson males. On September 2006 they tried to take over the Styx pride after killing the pride cubs but failed.
Living as Nomads on the landscape between Sabi sands and Kruger, the Robson boys became great buffalo hunters. Over years they will stay the silent hunters and visitors of rival male areas, especially the Mapogos, but they avoided to confront them.
In mid 2010 they risked one last try to take-over the eastern parts of Sabi Sands. They were beaten and injured by Kinky Tail and Mr. T and they have been expelled into Kruger.
So on serious note, both the robson males were in SS only, until mid 2010.They rarely goes to KNP.
Also, the most important point is majingis were born in start 2005, ( one or two may be in late 2004 also, especially the largest one, that was killed by KT and Mr T).But let's play safe and consider them all 2005 born.
HOW THE HELL ON EARTH TWO TEENS MALES ( NOT EVEN TWO YEARS OLD), MANAGE TO GET GIRLS FOR THEMSELVES, WHEN SPLIT ROCK, ROLLER COASTER AND MAPOGOS ALL WERE IN LINE??
ALSO WHEN THEY WERE STILL WITH THEIR NATAL PRIDE. HOW DO THEY MANAGE TO GO KNP?
NOT EVEN 2, HOW TWO SUBS MANAGE TO DEFEAT THE RULING COALITION??
AND I AM NOT EVEN COUNTING THE 3-4 MONTHS GESTATION PERIOD.
SIMPLE MATHEMATICS IS NOT ALLOING THIS THEORY.
I AM NOT BUYING IT
IT'S CLEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Animals are in no obligation to make sense or follow our biology books.
Sometimes they just make weird decisions like that which favour much weaker groups.
Coalitions of Kruger National Park
