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Coalitions of Kruger National Park

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(01-30-2022, 06:11 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Where are they?? 
Are they still in KNP. 
They must be younger brothers of nwaswitshaka males.

Yes, last time seen few months ago around their natal area.
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This is NOT Casper, but he is the pale Satara male
Credits: Vima Photography

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The Nshawu pride, dominated by 2 big males at Mopani Camp
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MJejane male
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(01-30-2022, 07:15 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: One of Young Jocks?

Mjejanes.
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1/3 Biyamiti males
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Correction: this is a lion in Nairobi National Park Kenya
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    Lion dynamics and history is becoming more and more fascinating and interesting as you go deep into it. From the past few days i was trying to find out the male legacy of West Street males and about the dominant male of Torchwood pride. Dunno that the answer for both will be same. 
On different platforms ,  I had asked about who is ruling the Torchwood pride, the answer I got was similsimilar every time that it's 2 kruger males, but who are they, where they come from, nnobody knows. 
Now the story goesin this way. Split Rock males ( eldest brothers of MOPOGOS and eldest sons of weswest street males) sire two cubs from othawa pride in early 2003. In 2006 , they became nomadicnomadic after their fathers ousted by some young male coalition. They were known as ROBSON BOYS. From 2006-10 , they were in continues battles with their uncles, Mr t and kinky tail, for the eastern sector of SS but they lost every battles. During these skirmishes one if the boy lose his eye so he named as ONE EYED and other one lost his half tail, so he got the name STOMPIE. 
In may 2010, theythey decided to leave SS and enter to kruger. There they settle with some pride nenear skuza and sire three male cubs in early 2011.
Then in late 2012 they were again challenged by 3 sand river males. There were several skirmishes b/w both the coalitions and ONE EYED died in early 2013 and STOMPIE died in early 2014.
One of their son also disappeared/ died in 2014 and the remaining two stastarts to led nomadic lives after that. 
Eventually these two males becomes the pride male of Torchwood pride and today they are known as KRUGER MALES. So these ttwo males are a few months younger than our BBOYS. BBOYS left the Torchwood pride in late 2016-early 2017. 
Dunno when these kruger males acquire the Torchwood pride and had they sired any male cubs with them?? 

Proof: https://m.facebook.com/groups/9362835131...054623749/

Images of 3 young kruger males ( 2013-14) , credit goes to KRUGER VIEW BACKPACKS LODGE
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@DARK MANE This picture of apperantly subadults Kruger males was discussed before, im not so sure that those are them, whisker spots are not so clear. 

Even if they are, is there any evidence that these subadults are sired by Robson males? Also do we know exact date of that picture?

For me, its hard to believe that Tattered Eared Kruger male is 10-11 yrs old, he looks younger or around the same age as N. Avocas.
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https://twitter.com/LatestKruger/status/1487087408411820034?cxt=HHwWhIC-hc-HmaMpAAAA

 Could this be the Kambula breakaway pride?
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[attachment=7332 Wrote: Tr1x24 pid='161410' dateline='1643577206']@DARK MANE This picture of apperantly subadults Kruger males was discussed before, im not so sure that those are them, whisker spots are not so clear. 

Even if they are, is there any evidence that these subadults are sired by Robson males? Also do we know exact date of that picture?

For me, its hard to believe that Tattered Eared Kruger male is 10-11 yrs old, he looks younger or around the same age as N. Avocas.
I have asked to Aegon cheche about these. His information are quite reliable. I have been following him from sometime and his knowledge about lions I found marvelous. 
According to him the two leeupan males are stompie and one eyed males sons. The further sired one young leeupan males, that makes the robson males as grandfather and split Rock males as great grandfather. 

If u cud also check it out once. 


Proof: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1761343645...664753863/

I am sharing young leeupan boy image. Photo credit Jeanette hill ferreira.

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Great photos of 2/3 Mjejane males

Credit: Lukimbi Safari Lodge


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Haven't seen anything on the third Nkaya/son. Hopefully he is alive and pops up again @Tr1x24
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@Mdz123 That is Casper bro. The guy is saying Satara males because people keep calling Caspers pride satara pride and not Semana pride because of that youtube channel who keeps saying it instead of following the singita guides in saying Semana.
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Zigzag Mbiri has always had that jaw issue since they took Myambula pride and he limps here and there should be fine hopefully
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