Coalitions of Kruger National Park

[Lipstick2]

(04-13-2024, 05:59 AM)Anyone knows which coalition has the confirmed longest reign in Kruger Wrote:

(04-13-2024, 10:35 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @Mapokser hard to know for Kruger with limited info, but Shishaangan males (Caspers fathers) ruled from around 2013 to 2023, last year when Trichardts takeover from remaining 2.

So thats around 10 yrs.

Thats prob longest as it can get, simply because of age.

Tr1x24 The 6 Old Gomondwanes also can be classified here, no?

They were probably dominant males already from 2008, and if i'm remember correctly, the very last members of this coalition still were spotted in the year of 2018 (at the time when their own sons chased them away, as it was assumed) so that could be around 10 years of their reign as well. No matter how look at it, their huge legacy is still so impressive, with their large Shishangenis and current (originally 7, now 6) young Gomondwane sons, mainly with the Shishangeni, Gomondwane and Vurhami prides.

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[Tr1x24]

(07-03-2024, 10:25 PM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Tr1x24 The 6 Old Gomondwanes also can be classified here, no?

They were probably dominant males already from 2008, and if i'm remember correctly, the very last members of this coalition still were spotted in the year of 2018 (at the time when their own sons chased them away, as it was assumed) so that could be around 10 years of their reign as well. No matter how look at it, their huge legacy is still so impressive, with their large Shishangenis and current (originally 7, now 6) young Gomondwane sons, mainly with the Shishangeni, Gomondwane and Vurhami prides.

Dont think that remaining old Gomondwane was territorial all the way to 2018, i think he was nomad with his sons at that time.

Old Gomondwanes are prob fathers of 3 Mjejanes aswell, as i think that Shishangeenis where too young to be Mjejanes fathers. Reply

[BA0701]

(07-03-2024, 10:45 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(07-03-2024, 10:25 PM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Tr1x24 The 6 Old Gomondwanes also can be classified here, no?

They were probably dominant males already from 2008, and if i'm remember correctly, the very last members of this coalition still were spotted in the year of 2018 (at the time when their own sons chased them away, as it was assumed) so that could be around 10 years of their reign as well. No matter how look at it, their huge legacy is still so impressive, with their large Shishangenis and current (originally 7, now 6) young Gomondwane sons, mainly with the Shishangeni, Gomondwane and Vurhami prides.

Dont think that remaining old Gomondwane was territorial all the way to 2018, i think he was nomad with his sons at that time.

Old Gomondwanes are prob fathers of 3 Mjejanes aswell, as i think that Shishangeenis where too young to be Mjejanes fathers.

How old were the Shishingenis when they were killed, ironically enough by the current Gomos, how long did they reign? All I know is a long time, and I believe they may have been around 10-11 when they died. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(07-03-2024, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: How old were the Shishingenis when they were killed, ironically enough by the current Gomos, how long did they reign? All I know is a long time, and I believe they may have been around 10-11 when they died.

Exact birth age of Shishangenis is not know (presumed around 2010).

I think they become territorial around 2015. Reply

[BA0701]

(07-03-2024, 11:00 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(07-03-2024, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: How old were the Shishingenis when they were killed, ironically enough by the current Gomos, how long did they reign? All I know is a long time, and I believe they may have been around 10-11 when they died.

Exact birth age of Shishangenis is not know (presumed around 2010).

I think they become territorial around 2015.

Thank you for that, so they may have been a lot older than I thought. Wow, their reign was even more impressive, especially when you consider the area they were in. Reply

[Lipstick2]

(07-03-2024, 10:45 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Old Gomondwanes are prob fathers of 3 Mjejanes aswell, as i think that Shishangeenis where too young to be Mjejanes fathers.

Weren't the Shishangenis at least 5 years old, when the Mjejanes were born? That was in 2014, right? And the Shishangenis were from 2009 as latest or from late 2008, as far as I know.

(07-03-2024, 10:45 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Dont think that remaining old Gomondwane was territorial all the way to 2018, i think he was nomad with his sons at that time.

Could be possible, so their reign wasn't even 10 years old in this case probably "only" 8-9 years at least?

(07-03-2024, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: How old were the Shishingenis when they were killed

BA0701 Dear BA0701, They were at least 12 or already 13 years at the time, the older one should have been 13 as i think. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(07-04-2024, 12:32 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Weren't the Shishangenis at least 5 years old, when the Mjejanes were born? That was in 2014, right? And the Shishangenis were from 2009 as latest or from late 2008, as far as I know.

Nah, they where not that old.

This is article from BigOnWild about them from 2020 :

https://www.bigonwild.co.za/2020/03/05/s...ale-lions/

Mjejanes are born in 2014. Reply

[DE_66]

(07-02-2024, 02:36 AM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:

(07-02-2024, 02:01 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Sons of Fourways/Torchwood coalition from Leeupan pride, near Tshokwane:

are there fathers alive ? did they father more or all the offsprings ?

Torchwood Matimba and Fourways Majingi? Reply

[Spalea]

@BA0701 :

" The phrase I have no words, is often used in such situations, I have plenty of words, but none that are suitable for this platform. A lifetime ban, wtf? How about some serious jail time, how about locking that guy and his girl in an enclosure with this male? All this lion, who I am unsure who he is, wanted to do was create space between himself and the trash that was pursuing him."


These people consider the animals as toys belonging to them, because "they have paid for". So they consider having all the rights. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(07-06-2024, 09:13 AM)DE_66 Wrote: Fourways Majingi?

Fourways Matshapiri. Reply

[BA0701]

(07-06-2024, 10:29 AM)Spalea Wrote: @BA0701 :

" The phrase I have no words, is often used in such situations, I have plenty of words, but none that are suitable for this platform. A lifetime ban, wtf? How about some serious jail time, how about locking that guy and his girl in an enclosure with this male? All this lion, who I am unsure who he is, wanted to do was create space between himself and the trash that was pursuing him."


These people consider the animals as toys belonging to them, because "they have paid for". So they consider having all the rights.

My friend, I edited your post. While I understand, and agree with, your sentiment, we do have a rule against such language, which is why I said "none that are suitable for this platform". Reply

[Spalea]

@BA0701 

You wrote: " My friend, I edited your post. While I understand, and agree with, your sentiment, we do have a rule against such language, which is why I said "none that are suitable for this platform". "

OK friend, I have tried to moderate my comment (by not using an exagerated term) but I will remember this rule that I ignored before. Thus:

You - I have no word (that are suitable...)
I - neither I have.

Avoiding to be too explicit. Reply

[Mwk85]

The remaining Trichardt male from a few days ago. Three new large males were reportedly seen in the area for the first time as well, not sure who they are at the moment.

Edit: These are the three new males. Anyone recognize them by any chance?

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[Gavskrr]

(07-09-2024, 01:26 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: The remaining Trichardt male from a few days ago. Three new large males were reportedly seen in the area for the first time as well, not sure who they are at the moment.

Edit: These are the three new males. Anyone recognize them by any chance?

I believe they are young Nsemani and 2 s90 males, they usually stay north of satara when they were seen chasing a pair of males, I had thought of the young N'wanetsi sons of the old sweni male but they must not have such developed manes yet. Reply

[Tr1x24]

Beautiful young male near Tshokwane (possibly from Mazithi pride):

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