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Considering the Big Pride lions such as Hanito and Ilanga are now hitting the 520 pounds and above weight scale, I'm wondering what are the weights of Gorakh and MIKI right now.
(04-16-2020, 07:39 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote: 240 kg, what a majestic animal
That's Han aka Hanito, according to the post he weigh 528 lbs. He looked overweight though, because of his average frame.
Yes, I said in the post above that Han weighted 240kg. He doesn't look overweight at all, just properly fed.
Not exactly overweight in a bad way, but they look chubby because of their average frames. Their shoulder heights are normal, at 3 feet and three or a little bit more inches. Eduardo Serio or Eddie is like 5 feet 8 inches tall.
(04-16-2020, 07:39 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote: 240 kg, what a majestic animal
That's Han aka Hanito, according to the post he weigh 528 lbs. He looked overweight though, because of his average frame.
Yes, I said in the post above that Han weighted 240kg. He doesn't look overweight at all, just properly fed.
Not exactly overweight in a bad way, but they look chubby because of their average frames. Their shoulder heights are normal, at 3 feet and three or a little bit more inches. Eduardo Serio or Eddie is like 5 feet 8 inches tall.
They do look chubby and rather adorable, but I wouldn't take that away as a negative factor for their weight, we see tigers with similar frames all the time
(04-16-2020, 07:39 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote: 240 kg, what a majestic animal
That's Han aka Hanito, according to the post he weigh 528 lbs. He looked overweight though, because of his average frame.
Yes, I said in the post above that Han weighted 240kg. He doesn't look overweight at all, just properly fed.
Not exactly overweight in a bad way, but they look chubby because of their average frames. Their shoulder heights are normal, at 3 feet and three or a little bit more inches. Eduardo Serio or Eddie is like 5 feet 8 inches tall.
They do look chubby and rather adorable, but I wouldn't take that away as a negative factor for their weight, we see tigers with similar frames all the time
Yeah its kind of normal to see captive big cats (not just big cats but almost every captive animals) to be a little bit chubbier than their wild counterparts.
(03-12-2020, 01:28 AM)tigerluver Wrote: Thor is the son of Sabre. The website is long gone but Sabre was even larger at 481 kg. Thor also had a similar sized brother, Thunder. All the tigers were quite overweight but Sabre did have a massive frame. There used to be a photo of him where just his body was as long or longer than a couch. Only image I could find was this:
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Even if Sabre was carrying 300 lbs/136 kg of extra weight, he'd still be massive.
The snapshot of wild cat weights are small and skewed by human pressures. As such, I recommend to not disregard a weight if it doesn't a preformed picture of what is reality. After all, during the existence of modern man true lions and tigers with skulls exceeding 18 inches existed (the Natodomeri lion and Kahayan tiger).
Well, that site doesn´t have even Jaipur right, so it tells quite a lot of reliability of that site and weights. It´s easy to have a 400-500 kg tiger, all it takes is to say so, when owner of some private sanctuary. No wonder, that so many people assume, that 300 kg would be nothing for tigers, when that kind of sites have done "good work".
I asked from one sanctuary about one tiger, which they said to be... was it 1000 lbs. They replied that it was, but obese as could be seen from one video clip too. And that he was weighed in some "local scale".
"I asked from one sanctuary about one tiger, which they said to be... was it 1000 lbs. They replied that it was, but obese as could be seen from one video clip too. And that he was weighed in some "local scale". "
Shadow, can you tell me which sanctuary said this? And if possible, could you send me a screenshot? Thanks
(04-20-2020, 05:43 AM)johnny rex Wrote: Considering the Big Pride lions such as Hanito and Ilanga are now hitting the 520 pounds and above weight scale, I'm wondering what are the weights of Gorakh and MIKI right now.
Ilanga was always smaller than Han and Luke, Eddie is probably estimating their weights which he does.
Any time he actually gets his cats on the scale he likes to post about it.
Hopefully he does it soon and id be curious about Ilanga and Alcyone since they're both 6 months younger than the rest of the big pride.
(03-12-2020, 01:28 AM)tigerluver Wrote: Thor is the son of Sabre. The website is long gone but Sabre was even larger at 481 kg. Thor also had a similar sized brother, Thunder. All the tigers were quite overweight but Sabre did have a massive frame. There used to be a photo of him where just his body was as long or longer than a couch. Only image I could find was this:
*This image is copyright of its original author
Even if Sabre was carrying 300 lbs/136 kg of extra weight, he'd still be massive.
The snapshot of wild cat weights are small and skewed by human pressures. As such, I recommend to not disregard a weight if it doesn't a preformed picture of what is reality. After all, during the existence of modern man true lions and tigers with skulls exceeding 18 inches existed (the Natodomeri lion and Kahayan tiger).
Well, that site doesn´t have even Jaipur right, so it tells quite a lot of reliability of that site and weights. It´s easy to have a 400-500 kg tiger, all it takes is to say so, when owner of some private sanctuary. No wonder, that so many people assume, that 300 kg would be nothing for tigers, when that kind of sites have done "good work".
I asked from one sanctuary about one tiger, which they said to be... was it 1000 lbs. They replied that it was, but obese as could be seen from one video clip too. And that he was weighed in some "local scale".
"I asked from one sanctuary about one tiger, which they said to be... was it 1000 lbs. They replied that it was, but obese as could be seen from one video clip too. And that he was weighed in some "local scale". "
Shadow, can you tell me which sanctuary said this? And if possible, could you send me a screenshot? Thanks
I´ve been busy lately... I don´t remember it now. I have to check emails, it was in the USA though. I saw it mentioned by @Pckts once and I wrote there. I´ll check my emails later, those messages are still somewhere there.
(03-12-2020, 01:28 AM)tigerluver Wrote: Thor is the son of Sabre. The website is long gone but Sabre was even larger at 481 kg. Thor also had a similar sized brother, Thunder. All the tigers were quite overweight but Sabre did have a massive frame. There used to be a photo of him where just his body was as long or longer than a couch. Only image I could find was this:
*This image is copyright of its original author
Even if Sabre was carrying 300 lbs/136 kg of extra weight, he'd still be massive.
The snapshot of wild cat weights are small and skewed by human pressures. As such, I recommend to not disregard a weight if it doesn't a preformed picture of what is reality. After all, during the existence of modern man true lions and tigers with skulls exceeding 18 inches existed (the Natodomeri lion and Kahayan tiger).
Well, that site doesn´t have even Jaipur right, so it tells quite a lot of reliability of that site and weights. It´s easy to have a 400-500 kg tiger, all it takes is to say so, when owner of some private sanctuary. No wonder, that so many people assume, that 300 kg would be nothing for tigers, when that kind of sites have done "good work".
I asked from one sanctuary about one tiger, which they said to be... was it 1000 lbs. They replied that it was, but obese as could be seen from one video clip too. And that he was weighed in some "local scale".
"I asked from one sanctuary about one tiger, which they said to be... was it 1000 lbs. They replied that it was, but obese as could be seen from one video clip too. And that he was weighed in some "local scale". "
Shadow, can you tell me which sanctuary said this? And if possible, could you send me a screenshot? Thanks
I´ve been busy lately... I don´t remember it now. I have to check emails, it was in the USA though. I saw it mentioned by @Pckts once and I wrote there. I´ll check my emails later, those messages are still somewhere there.
This article originally ran in the Spring 2002 issue of Zoo View, the quarterly publication of the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association.
A dedicated veterinary team takes advantage of the Zoo’s brand-new Animal Health and Conservation Center to treat a lion’s lameness and unexplained weight loss.
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''Lionel, a 14-year-old lion who has lived at the Los Angeles Zoo since 1997, lay immobilized and vulnerable on an examination table, the great beast’s muzzle tethered to prevent a breathing tube from falling out. The tube carried a gentle mix of isoflurane and oxygen, just enough to keep the 400-pound ( 181kg ) member of the order Carnivora peacefully unaware of the team of humans working hurriedly but with focused determination all around him.''
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The team of veterinarians, keepers, and specialists intently collected evidence as they tried to solve the current medical mystery at hand: What was the source, or sources, of the lion’s lameness? Doctors were also interested in learning what was behind Lionel’s decreased appetite and resulting weight loss.
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Weight loss:
And what about the dropping of 43 pounds from Lionel’s 404-pound frame? A blood test result suggests a deficiency in digestive enzymes, according to Dr. Wynne, which can be treated with supplemental enzymes. Though the new health center and its equipment is a huge improvement over the old, Dr. Wynne still has an equine endoscope on her wish list.
“The human endoscope that we used on Lionel simply doesn’t reach far enough to get a biopsy of his small intestine,” said Wynne. “So we can’t rule out an intestinal disease.”
As Dr. Janna Wynne (right) inserts the tube that will keep Lionel immobile, everyone pitches in to lift the 400-pound ( 181 kg ) animal into the van. Photo by Bruce Gelvin.
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In the meantime, Lionel will follow a course of arthritis medication and digestive enzyme therapy, and lots and lots of observation and care from his keepers and doctors. Thanks to their dedication—and the incredible improvements in treatment that the new Animal Health and Conservation Center makes possible—Lionel and his fellow Zoo residents will have the best care possible.
Everyone plays a vital role in examinations where time is of the essence. The less time an animal spends under anesthesia, the lower the risk. Photo by Bruce Gelvin.
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Dr. Cooper checks the anesthesia tube to make sure it is secure. Photo by Bruce Gelvin.
