Can a Lone Male Lion have a successful predation on a Adult Bull Buffalo?

[Shadow]

(08-18-2019, 04:46 PM)Pckts Wrote: Any other videos, I cant view your post @Pantherinae

Looks like to be this:


https://www.facebook.com/181324685890740/videos/712978845790129/ Reply

[Shadow]

Maybe this is now functional... Reply

[Pckts]

Thanks @Shadow
Any description other than a Cape being fed on alive is hearsay unless specified by the actual owner of the video. Reply

[LazarLazar]

A male lion kills a bull buffalo alone
https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU3NTIyMTY0.html Reply

[Pantherinae]

(01-30-2020, 10:46 PM)LazarLazar Wrote: A male lion kills a bull buffalo alone
https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU3NTIyMTY0.html

Brilliant find, tfs! Reply

[Spalea]

(01-30-2020, 10:46 PM)LazarLazar Wrote: A male lion kills a bull buffalo alone
https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU3NTIyMTY0.html

Great find ! And this buffalo seemed really powerful... Reply

[Spalea]

On this video we can fairly admit that a lone male makes the whole work. The lioness is watching and the other males coming after are rather interested by this lioness.

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[TigerJaguar]

See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical Reply

[Shadow]

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea . Reply

[chaos]

(02-15-2020, 09:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea .

I never doubted it Reply

[Shadow]

(02-15-2020, 11:09 PM)chaos Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 09:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea .

I never doubted it

If you mean a lion killing a bull cape buffalo alone, I have also never doubted it. Dangerous prey but not impossible, there is even one case in which a lioness killed a bull buffalo alone. That was really surprising. Reply

[Pckts]

(02-15-2020, 09:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea .

A big fit bull like this is much more robust than that skinny older bull. 

*This image is copyright of its original author

When you see a real alpha bachelor, you know they aren't going down to a lone lion without an immense fight.

Here is what a real big cape bull vs Lions looks like

If you can find a lone lion taking on one of those I'd be amazed. Reply

[Shadow]

(02-16-2020, 12:46 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 09:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea .

A big fit bull is much more robust than this skinny older bull. 

*This image is copyright of its original author

When you see a real alpha bachelor, you know they aren't going down to a lone lion without an immense fight.

It doesn´t change it, that this lion made that hunt to look easy. There are many other clips showing, that some lions obviously know what they are doing while others struggle. That is of course same with all species, some are better than others in certain things. Reply

[Pckts]

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

(02-16-2020, 12:52 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-16-2020, 12:46 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 09:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea .

A big fit bull is much more robust than this skinny older bull. 

*This image is copyright of its original author

When you see a real alpha bachelor, you know they aren't going down to a lone lion without an immense fight.

It doesn´t change it, that this lion made that hunt to look easy. There are many other clips showing, that some lions obviously know what they are doing while others struggle. That is of course same with all species, some are better than others in certain things.

Of course it does.
Do you think a 65 year old man is comparable in strength, stamina and mobility to a 30 year old?
Regardless of technique, a lone lion vs a big prime cape bull is going to have a hard time, nothing is coming easy there. And if I'm betting, I'm betting on the bull every time. Reply

[Shadow]

(02-16-2020, 01:04 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

(02-16-2020, 12:52 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-16-2020, 12:46 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 09:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(02-15-2020, 08:36 PM)TigerJaguar Wrote: See how powerful the lion's forepaws are it literally made the bull go full vertical

It was movement, when that bull fell which made it go almost full vertical, it had nothing to do with fore paw strength :) Lions are strong, but not that strong, big bulls like that can be easily 600-800 kg. Big cat´s can´t even drag that big animals more than a few meters max. with extreme efforts.

Awesome hunt though, from it nothing can be taken off from this male lion. He made it look like easy. One of the most amazing performances I´ve ever seen from big cats, very nice find @Spalea .

A big fit bull is much more robust than this skinny older bull. 

*This image is copyright of its original author

When you see a real alpha bachelor, you know they aren't going down to a lone lion without an immense fight.

It doesn´t change it, that this lion made that hunt to look easy. There are many other clips showing, that some lions obviously know what they are doing while others struggle. That is of course same with all species, some are better than others in certain things.

Of course it does.
Do you think a 65 year old man is comparable in strength, stamina and mobility to a 30 year old?
Regardless of technique, a lone lion vs a big prime buffalo cape bull is going to have a hard time, nothing is coming easy there. And if I'm betting, I'm betting on the bull every time.

You are free to have your opinion of course. I never said, that cape buffalo is easy meal, but this male lion showed impressive skills, imo. I´ve seen many lions do much worse. Everyone are free to bet what they want of course, but I´m not surprised to see time to time lions kill also bull buffalos because I´ve never seen it as impossible. Very challenging though and not something to happen too often. Reply