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 (01-07-2019, 06:57 PM)Smilodon-Rex Wrote:I just now noticed, that you wrote dozens of people every year in Russia. Do you have source for that information, because that actually sounds quite high number. I firstly read, that they kill people and didn´t notice that dozens :) In Finland that one killed man (jogging right in the middle of mother bear and cubs) is only known case in a hundred years. Dozens per year sounds really high number. Captive bears are another thing, accident can happen even when bear is just playing, they are after all that strong compared to humans.(01-07-2019, 06:19 PM)Shadow Wrote:Bears would kill dozens of people every year in Russia.....have you known the latest news that a Russian brown bear has killed his owner who took care him for many years since the young, Brown bear is easily to out of control because it's a smart and powerful carnivore, the similar example like elephant, they all own high intelligence which means they can easy to be kind with human being but also easy to be mad psychologically and choose to attack human being(01-07-2019, 03:52 PM)Smilodon-Rex Wrote:
I just have to put this here. There is what you can get, when disturbing a bear. Look how bear takes eye contact in 3:04
 Only after that delivering message...
This video can be actually quite good to watch for people, who are confused about it, that what brown bears can be called as grizzly. Even though I doubt that, that word aggressive should be used in a way making people starting to think, that it means towards humans too.
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Midsummer 2014 and curious bear makes a visit in Finland. Looks like to be night time, but in midsummer it can be difficult to know for many, who haven´t experienced it :)
Here another video about same case. Here you can see, that both videos are recorded while sitting and drinking coffee on terrace. Actually on first video that man tries to say to that bear, that go away, but hard to notice while he is so calm all the time :) For instance from about 0:45-1:10 he is talking to that bear, but if not understanding finnish, it is quite difficult to notice  
www.goodreads.com/book/show/250095.Grizzly_Years?from_search=true
Five Stars. Grizzly Years: In Search of the American Wilderness by Doug Peacock (Goodreads Author) 4.18 · Rating details · 1,234 Ratings · 69 Reviews For nearly twenty years, alone and unarmed, author Doug Peacock traversed the rugged mountains of Montana and Wyoming tracking the magnificent grizzly. His thrilling narrative takes us into the bear's habitat, where we observe directly this majestic animal's behavior, from hunting strategies, mating patterns, and denning habits to social hierarchy and methods of communication. As Peacock tracks the bears, his story turns into a thrilling narrative about the breaking down of suspicion between man and beast in the wild. www.grizzlycountryfilm.com/?fbclid=IwAR3WIuqIycWXUo-xLWuT40TpqFhXA4Uk4tzM8f0PiCLbemjv37SYr86-AFQ (01-23-2019, 11:23 AM)brotherbear Wrote: www.goodreads.com/book/show/250095.Grizzly_Years?from_search=true I find that funny, how it is mentioned separately, that Doug Peacock was "alone and unarmed" in the woods, like it would be something dramatic :) Peacock was then as brave as here any, especially older people, who go to pick berries and mushrooms every summer and autumn in the woods, impressive Well, of course Peacock can´t help funny marketing, but I couldn´t help smiling. But for sure a good book even though I don´t understand what was so special in that, that he didn´t carry a gun there. Of course I know, that many people are afraid about everything.... but maybe writer of that marketing part has seen too many bigfoot "documentaries".....
 (01-23-2019, 11:23 AM)brotherbear Wrote: www.goodreads.com/book/show/250095.Grizzly_Years?from_search=true I read this book twenty years ago (1998 or 1999), the french version book. Very interesting, I remember the author's encounter with a big grizzly in wild. The importance of this encounter as concerns the author who came back, at that time, from the vietnam war if I remind well...
Yes, Doug Peacock was a Vietnam vet. This was at a time when grizzlies were portrayed as living monsters. Doug lived out in the wildness following and studying inland grizzlies, getting to know them on an almost personal level; giving them names. Doug pioneered in grizzly behavior, learning about their person space and all the dos and don'ts for future grizzly biologists and naturalists. In later years, he spent time in the Russian taiga. "Grizzly Years" is indeed a must-read book for anyone interested in grizzlies or the American wilderness.
(01-23-2019, 12:53 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Yes, Doug Peacock was a Vietnam vet. This was at a time when grizzlies were portrayed as living monsters. Doug lived out in the wildness following and studying inland grizzlies, getting to know them on an almost personal level; giving them names. Doug pioneered in grizzly behavior, learning about their person space and all the dos and don'ts for future grizzly biologists and naturalists. In later years, he spent time in the Russian taiga. "Grizzly Years" is indeed a must-read book for anyone interested in grizzlies or the American wilderness. "This was at a time when grizzlies were portrayed as living monsters." Yes, exactly. He insisted how much this unexpected encounter with a big grizzly changed his life. The bear could kill him during a second fraction and instead went on its way. (01-23-2019, 04:07 PM)Spalea Wrote:(01-23-2019, 12:53 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Yes, Doug Peacock was a Vietnam vet. This was at a time when grizzlies were portrayed as living monsters. Doug lived out in the wildness following and studying inland grizzlies, getting to know them on an almost personal level; giving them names. Doug pioneered in grizzly behavior, learning about their person space and all the dos and don'ts for future grizzly biologists and naturalists. In later years, he spent time in the Russian taiga. "Grizzly Years" is indeed a must-read book for anyone interested in grizzlies or the American wilderness. That is what it happens with brown bears normally. I have never believed so much it, that grizzlies would be so different than any other brown bears. Let them be and they let you be. Sneak close and surprise one, then it can be lottery, run away and more probably it will run after you... as any predator if you wake up that hunting instinct acting like prey :) But nice, that there are people who go out there to find out reality behind stories by old hunters, who have enjoyed telling exciting stories about "monsters" for their children and grandchildren :)
However, neither are they puppies. Inland grizzlies are more aggressive than the coastal brown bears. Doug told of one particular grizzly which had set-up for an ambush just up the trail from him. Good thing for Doug he had plenty of outdoors experience. He also tells of a grizzly's "personal space" ( I can't remember the footage ) but if you were to blunder into his space, he is then dangerous. I also found it interesting that a grizzly will often make a bluff-charge ( like a gorilla ).
Casey Anderson stated that had Timothy Treadwell tried living among inland grizzlies in the same manner as he did the coastal brownies, his career with bears would have ended sooner. (01-23-2019, 08:00 PM)brotherbear Wrote: However, neither are they puppies. Inland grizzlies are more aggressive than the coastal brown bears. Doug told of one particular grizzly which had set-up for an ambush just up the trail from him. Good thing for Doug he had plenty of outdoors experience. He also tells of a grizzly's "personal space" ( I can't remember the footage ) but if you were to blunder into his space, he is then dangerous. I also found it interesting that a grizzly will often make a bluff-charge ( like a gorilla ). I live in a country, where inland brown bears can be found everywhere, of course more in eastern part of country, but there is no bear free zone in Finland outside cities. Of course bear is no puppy, it is important to know how they behave naturally when wondering in the woods. If sneaking as silent as you can against the wind, it is possible to meet a bear and make it surprised. Those situations are dangerous, because no-one knows how bear behaves in that situation, it is 50/50 if it flee or charge and if surprised badly, it can be a real attack. Bluff charges are typical when bear isn´t surprised, but just feeling inconvenient, like mother bear with cubs or a bear near carcass, which it guards. In both cases you should stay calm and back off walking and facing that bear, not shouting like madman or running away. What comes to bear ambushing a man, I am not quite sure if that is the case or not... could be if some bear is acting abnormal way. Maybe in same way as it would set up a moose or something if noticing it. I don´t think, that it has had anything personal against Peacock :) I have mentioned before, that in Finland in last century only one person has died in bear attack. I think, if I remember right, that in USA that number is also very low? Humans just aren´t in their "prey list". (01-23-2019, 08:41 PM)Shadow Wrote:(01-23-2019, 08:00 PM)brotherbear Wrote: However, neither are they puppies. Inland grizzlies are more aggressive than the coastal brown bears. Doug told of one particular grizzly which had set-up for an ambush just up the trail from him. Good thing for Doug he had plenty of outdoors experience. He also tells of a grizzly's "personal space" ( I can't remember the footage ) but if you were to blunder into his space, he is then dangerous. I also found it interesting that a grizzly will often make a bluff-charge ( like a gorilla ). And I know, it is so easy to say: "be calm, talk something with normal voice and walk backwards" when everything inside screams "RUN" But it is as it is. You can either make your chances better or worse, if acting in panic, usually things go to worse. I have been in some dangerous situations and managed to keep calm. But I have never met a bear in the woods, at least so, that I would have noticed it. Maybe some day it happens even though I try to avoid it, when in the woods... maybe after that I write here and tell how it went. Or never writing again But I still go to the woods time to time and no gun or bear sprays or anything with me :) I am still more worried if meeting grumpy moose, than a bear. Moose can be a real nightmare even though it looks so nice. Those I have seen many many times.
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