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 (10-10-2018, 03:35 AM)brotherbear Wrote: Two questions for Shadow: Are the bears trying to come into Finland Siberian brown bears, Amur brown bears, or Kamchatka brown bears? And, why are they not allowed to enter? They are brown bears from North-Karelia, Siberia is a long long way from Finland. When you look at map... Russia is a huge country and there are brown bears from border of Finland to Siberia covering Russia from west to east all the way. Amur, Kamchatka and Siberia parts of Russia, but only parts. And bears are allowed to enter. Border patrol just had to scare this one away because it was on their way and they had to continue forward :) Bears are roaming freely from Norway to Sweden and Finland and Russia. Many bears which spend summer in Finland go to Russian side to hibernate. (10-10-2018, 03:35 AM)brotherbear Wrote: Two questions for Shadow: Are the bears trying to come into Finland Siberian brown bears, Amur brown bears, or Kamchatka brown bears? And, why are they not allowed to enter? So it is Ursus arctos arctos - Eurasian brown bear if old information is still valid :) 
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TRUE GRIZZ by Douglas H. Chadwick. Status: Listed since 1975 as threatened in the lower 48 under the Endangered Species Act. Bottom Line: Reliable information about the natural history of the grizzly was unavailable before the brothers John and Frank Craighead carried out their ground-breaking studies in Yellowstone National Park. They didn't start until 1959, more than a century and a half after this giant carnivore was first reported by white explorers. With help from technology such as satellite monitoring and DNA analysis, new information is being compiled far more quickly today. But scientists have a great deal left to learn about one of the most complex mammals in existence, and the public's conception is still based largely on old-fashioned, hair-raising yarns.
10-10-2018, 09:57 PM
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Here two videos, where brown bear(s) and lone wolf.
First Kuhmo, Finland. August 2017 at night time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3qcvLq8OkM Second Viiksimo, Finland. August 2011. In this many bears and kind of funny to watch, you will see why if you choose to watch  I mean if you like bears :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8xyeqqkYT8
10-11-2018, 05:25 PM
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One case from Kainuu, Finland. Originally happened 6.5.2006. Posted to a newspaper by a reader.
Writer lives in forest and house on the shore of a lake. So practically in the middle of wildlife and seeing a lot of wild animals. He say, that this incident is still highlight among all. Story synopsis (when there is I/we etc., it is about writer): Old-man Topi, neighbour, rushes in the house and shouts: "Come to watch, on opposite shore is a bear attacking a moose!". So it really was. About half an hour water of shoreline in river delta was splashing on opposite shore (about 400 meters). With binoculars it was seen clearly how a good sized bear was "riding" on the back of the bull moose. Occasionally the moose fell and we, four viewers were absolutely sure, that it wouldn´t get up anymore. With his last strength the moose managed to get up and escaped to melt shore water, bear on his back. In the middle of the lake was still ice cover. Finally only head of the moose could be seen on water and obviously the bear started to have lack of oxygen. Suddenly the bear emerged and swam away, maybe after some kick (estimation) from the moose underwater too. The bear swam to the ice cover in the middle of the lake, but it didn´t support his weight and heavy beast sunk time to time through ice into the water, before it reached, exhausted, the shore again. The bear was approximately age of 2-3 years, just woken up from hibernation. The moose was able to swim to shore too, well away from the bear and stood there badly injured (both sides with open wounds) and stiff caused by terror, totally immobile. I called immediately to Heikki Manninen of gamekeeping association and asked if the moose should be finished (miracle, that it survived so far). He said, that it would be better to let the nature to do its work to the end, pointing out, that if shot, then often the carcass doesn´t be suitable for bear anymore and it would for sure go back there to find the moose. After that I called to two nature photographers (Hannu Huttu and Kari Kemppainen), who arrived in no time with their telescope objectives. Kari (internationally known wildlife movie director from Kuhmo) told me, when I was helping him to carry those heavy camcorders and batteries to shore, that if he is able to film returning of the bear and final battle, then it would be one of those highlights, which are served only once in a lifetime. Unfortunately fight so far was recorded only in hardrives inside heads of four viewers for the rest of their lives... From attached photos can be seen though, how badly injured moose is standing in shock on the shore and the bear is planning anxiously returning to the moose. We brought to photographers coffee and they stayed to look how situation developes. Kari and Hannu told, that the bear went back on night, but wind direction revealed it to the moose, which then escaped outside the area, which could be photographed/filmed... After that day I was looking for from the nearby forest a long time, that where the carcass of that moose might be and I especially looked where ravens flew (best ones to help to find a carcass), but without results. Not until next year a local woodsman found the carcass and not a long way from our house. The moose had swam with his last strength over river (Suoronjoki, offcially Suoronjoki-Isojoki) before the bear started to eat. My own search had ended on the other side of the river because I would never had believed, that the badly injured animal would have been still able to swim and cross that river. Two photos taken by my colleague Hannu Huttu (his website www.hannuhuttu.com ). http://ilmari.puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/4...n-taistelu Well, story synopsis is pretty much whole story there :)
I have seen many size comparisons of animals. Bears too, but for some reason it is odd, that never such, where would be shown differences what comes to brown bears at different regions. And then again all size comparisons are made from side, which doesn´t open up the difference so good always. Also putting there figures, like this one is 9 feet tall when standing and this one 10 feet tall doesn´t open up difference maybe in best way always.
It is like when you see photos about mountains, there is no photo or video, which would make you realize how impressive a mountain is. Only way to get it is to visit mountains and experience it. I attach here a photo to show, what I would be interested to see. That kind of comparison to made for instance when talking about biggest individuals and made by someone who can make pictures authetic what comes to sizes and compared to each others. There could be Kodiak, coastal grizzlies from North-America and then different brown bears from Siberia and Eurasian. Polar bear and some big black bear too. Maybe if wanted some big cats. I haven´t found anything like this (besides this :) and I think, that this would be really interesting to see and be sure, that done by someone reliable. maybe I have´t looked enough :) This kind of view, I think, makes you realize much better, that what is the difference when for instance "normal" grizzly and Kodiak are compared,
Post #503 is a very good comparison although I would think the polar bear taller than the Kodiak though both are huge bears. Another thing that I have been in search of for several years now is a "family tree" of all the brown bears ( Ursus arctos ), both living and known extinct relatives. Perhaps, for such a family tree to be complete both the polar bear and the sloth bear should be included. Thus far it seems that no bear biologist has ever produced such a family tree which might help explain the various clade's.
As far as I know, tallest kodiaks and polar bears are pretty much same size. In average polars are taller for sure, again as far as I remember all what I have read about these bears. But both should be able to reach 10 feet approximately when looking the biggest ones. Anyway it would really be interesting to find something like that. I for sure think, that biggest kodiaks are the most robust bears there are. On the other hand it would be interesting to see this kind of comparison made by professionals. That is the reason I posted that and asked.
(10-11-2018, 10:01 PM)Shadow Wrote: As far as I know, tallest kodiaks and polar bears are pretty much same size. In average polars are taller for sure, again as far as I remember all what I have read about these bears. But both should be able to reach 10 feet approximately when looking the biggest ones. Anyway it would really be interesting to find something like that. I for sure think, that biggest kodiaks are the most robust bears there are. On the other hand it would be interesting to see this kind of comparison made by professionals. That is the reason I posted that and asked. Record polar bears are heavier by tens of pounds and taller by inches. We are talking wild specimens of each. But, I would say Kodiak bears have greater upper-body strength including shoulders, neck, and broader skull. Polar bears have extra fat which adds pounds. (10-11-2018, 10:31 PM)brotherbear Wrote:(10-11-2018, 10:01 PM)Shadow Wrote: As far as I know, tallest kodiaks and polar bears are pretty much same size. In average polars are taller for sure, again as far as I remember all what I have read about these bears. But both should be able to reach 10 feet approximately when looking the biggest ones. Anyway it would really be interesting to find something like that. I for sure think, that biggest kodiaks are the most robust bears there are. On the other hand it would be interesting to see this kind of comparison made by professionals. That is the reason I posted that and asked. Yes there are small differences. I know, that record breaking polar bear was huge, but still I have this image, that overall the biggest ones are quite same size, both a little bit under 10 feet. Anyway that is a little bit side of what I had in my mind when I posted that picture :) If that someone reads this and have that kind of comparison by someone who could be kept as an expert what comes to bears, it would be really nice to see :)
That record 2100 pound polar bear was mounted incorrectly ( unnaturally ) and so the height given is not correct. We must consider the polar bears diet of seal, walrus, and whale blubber being more weight-gaining that any zoo menu for bears. Captive polar bears are not the record sized polar bears. The heaviest zoo-kept Kodiak bears on record ( being fed less weight-gaining food than a wild polar bear, were heavier than the record polar bear. So in all reality, polar bears are slightly larger because of their fatty diet.
TRUE GRIZZ by Douglas H. Chadwick.
( Doug Chadwick reflecting back to himself as a preteen boy )... From the advanture books and sportsmen's magazines heaped in my room, I'd gathered that people in the woods were always having ripsnorting run-ins with grizzly bears. For hardcore outdoorsmen, it was practically an obligation. If there were such things as average-sized grizzlies, I'd never heard about any, only about awesome grizzlies - that was the stock term - weighing at least half a ton. A tower of gut-crunching terror every time. With red eyes that glowed like embers. Crazed with bloodlust. Slavering foamy spit. I figured some of this was what Dad would call happy horseshit, but a lot of it must be true. How else could so many adults wind up with the same stories of humongous, berserker bears? Besides, I didn't have much else to go on.
TRUE GRIZZ by Douglas H. Chadwick.
My interest in the great bears only expanded as the years went by. And the more time I spent observing the animals, the more I found myself wondering whether people - whatever their stated intentions - would ever really allow beasts of such dimensions to be restored, and if so, how? I wound up making a sort of subcareer out of looking for answers. I imposed upon resource managers in their offices and researchers deep in the field, sought out the salmon streams and other settings where bears were said to have grown fairly used to observers, and got to know a couple of bear movie stars and asked their trainers for insight. I even went to circuses and watched bicycling bears. For the most part, I just kept roaming where grizzlies do. Toward the end of the 1990s, I was still out traversing wildlands from southern Yellowstone to the edge of the Arctic, when I found what I realized was some of the most inventive, revealing work being done on these animals anywhere. It was a high-stakes wager on the true nature of grizz, crucial to the species' recovery, and it was taking place at home in northwestern Montana, more or less in my backyard.
Post by brobear on Oct 10, 2018 at 1:56pm
TRUE GRIZZ by Douglas H. Chadwick. Along with their polar bear cousins, grizzlies are by far the biggest, strongest, predators in the New World. They can accelerate from zero to thirty or more miles per hour faster than a sports car, knock over elk with a left hook, or drag a 1,000-pound steer off into the woods to eat like so much take-out food. What, then, are they doing hanging around bird feeders and competing with finches? The answer begins with the fact that, while their origins and anatomy place them firmly within the carnivore order, grizzlies are consummate omnivores. With a remarkable knack for finagling hitched to their pile-driver strength, they come primed to take advantage of the most nourishing food available at any given time, be it moose, musk ox, marmot, lily bulb, crab, clam, snail, fish, mushroom, mountaintop moth aggregation, underground hornet nest, rotten carcass, fragrant herb, or freshly sprouted grass, which they will graze the livelong day in spring with all the spine-tingling drama of cows. Grizzlies own one of the longest intestinal tracts of any carnivore to help process plant roughage, and quite a few of these bears are chiefly vegetarian. As far as I know, the only large mammal able to pick up a broader menu is Homo sapiens. Some people eat grizz, for that matter. But then, the bears sometimes eat people, more or less evening things out. With the onset of Autumn, grizzlies enter a state known as hyperphagia. It means feeding in overdrive. They need to consume 20,000 to 30,000 calories and put on two to three pounds daily for at least a couple of months. Otherwise, they might not have sufficient energy reserves to see them through a denning period that, like the snowpack, can last half the year.
TRUE GRIZZ by Douglas H. Chadwick.
The grizzly is the North American version of the brown bear, Ursus arctos, the long-clawed, hump-shouldered species also found across Eurasia from the French Pyrenees to the Japanese island of Hokkaido. Some of the trained "grizzlies" that chase after pioneer kids in movies or buddy up with mountain men on television shows are actually Syrian brown bears, which also tend to have markedly silvertipped - grizzled - fur. During mountain man times, as many as 100,000 grizzlies may have roamed the contigupus states west of the Mississippi River. In 1975, the animals were listed as threatened south of Canada because 99 percent had been eliminated there. Standing shoulder to shoulder, the remainder would scarcely have filled a used car lot. Keystone predators, scavengers, earthmovers ( those four-inch claws are mainly for digging roots and rodents ), recyclers of nutrients, and distributors of seeds ( from as many as 70,000 berries a day in good times ), grizzlies play an outsize role in the natural communities of which they remain part. They command a similarly exaggerated niche in the human imagination. A majority of the public wants these ecological heavyweights and spawners of sagas, these mega-mammals, hauled back from the brink. |
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