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(02-10-2023, 11:29 PM)Bruceenzo Wrote: Warsaw(waveriders) should come from Poland, because Warsaw is the capital of Poland. He seems to be able to write papers. He even wrote rumors into his papers. This paper has tampered with Dale's original text to quote, which is crazy.

Either Warsaw participated in writing that paper, or the Polish authors of that paper quoted and referenced a random forum poster who has zero qualifications in zoology or animal biology. Either way, its ridiculous and surprising that the authors not only outright lied, falsely referenced and stated misinformation about Miquelle and Tkachenko, but also referenced and quoted a completely unqualified forum poster who's lies have no shred of evidence to support.
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This is what happens in general when a tiger comes back to its kill and sees a scavenging bear. Sometimes, the tiger even kills and eats the bear.

Indo-chinese tiger (looks like a young tiger or tigress) scares away an Asiatic black bear that was scavenging on its kill:  (7 January, 2023)






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Yes, I heard that Warsaw is a tiger hater
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@Bruceenzo  Please refer to the new rule up on the anouncement .
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"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."

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Male Sloth Bear and female Leopard
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(04-21-2023, 09:06 PM)Pckts Wrote: Male Sloth Bear and female Leopard

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(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.
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(06-08-2023, 06:59 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.

The female Bears leg was broke, it was unable to move properly and had little hope after that. 
But to my knowledge there hasn’t been any photos of the Tiger actually making the kill or feeding on the bear so it still likely is 2nd hand.
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(06-08-2023, 07:20 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 06:59 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.

The female Bears leg was broke, it was unable to move properly and had little hope after that. 
But to my knowledge there hasn’t been any photos of the Tiger actually making the kill or feeding on the bear so it still likely is 2nd hand.

The tiger could have broken that bear's leg previously, who knows. I see no reason to doubt the reports from the forest officials. Of course they must have seen some evidence, or at least received first-hand info via a reliable source (another forest ranger, guide etc) that the bear was indeed killed later on by the tiger.
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(06-08-2023, 07:40 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:20 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 06:59 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.

The female Bears leg was broke, it was unable to move properly and had little hope after that. 
But to my knowledge there hasn’t been any photos of the Tiger actually making the kill or feeding on the bear so it still likely is 2nd hand.

The tiger could have broken that bear's leg previously, who knows. I see no reason to doubt the reports from the forest officials. Of course they must have seen some evidence, or at least received first-hand info via a reliable source (another forest ranger, guide etc) that the bear was indeed killed later on by the tiger.

Because they do all the time. Indian headlines and reports are misleading often. Not to mention there is no actual name or witness to actually confirm
any claim. Its possible the Tiger eventually killed the bear but point being that nobody that was there for this actual encounter saw that happen.
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(06-08-2023, 07:46 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:40 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:20 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 06:59 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.

The female Bears leg was broke, it was unable to move properly and had little hope after that. 
But to my knowledge there hasn’t been any photos of the Tiger actually making the kill or feeding on the bear so it still likely is 2nd hand.

The tiger could have broken that bear's leg previously, who knows. I see no reason to doubt the reports from the forest officials. Of course they must have seen some evidence, or at least received first-hand info via a reliable source (another forest ranger, guide etc) that the bear was indeed killed later on by the tiger.

Because they do all the time. Indian headlines and reports are misleading often. Not to mention there is no actual name or witness to actually confirm
any claim. Its possible the Tiger eventually killed the bear but point being that nobody that was there for this actual encounter saw that happen.

There's a video of the forest official saying that the tiger killed the bear. The tiger never killed the bear on the spot (referring to the encounter filmed on video), the reports mention that later on the tiger had killed the bear. So the forest officials must have received the news from another forest ranger or guide, who probably saw the bears dead, partially-eaten carcass later on. 

The tourists just filmed the initial encounter, but its very likely that the tiger came back later on and killed that bear. 
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(06-09-2023, 06:00 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:46 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:40 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:20 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 06:59 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.

The female Bears leg was broke, it was unable to move properly and had little hope after that. 
But to my knowledge there hasn’t been any photos of the Tiger actually making the kill or feeding on the bear so it still likely is 2nd hand.

The tiger could have broken that bear's leg previously, who knows. I see no reason to doubt the reports from the forest officials. Of course they must have seen some evidence, or at least received first-hand info via a reliable source (another forest ranger, guide etc) that the bear was indeed killed later on by the tiger.

Because they do all the time. Indian headlines and reports are misleading often. Not to mention there is no actual name or witness to actually confirm
any claim. Its possible the Tiger eventually killed the bear but point being that nobody that was there for this actual encounter saw that happen.

There's a video of the forest official saying that the tiger killed the bear. The tiger never killed the bear on the spot (referring to the encounter filmed on video), the reports mention that later on the tiger had killed the bear. So the forest officials must have received the news from another forest ranger or guide, who probably saw the bears dead, partially-eaten carcass later on. 

The tourists just filmed the initial encounter, but its very likely that the tiger came back later on and killed that bear. 

*This image is copyright of its original author
Sloth Bear was also said to be seen with its mother the next day. 

I do think the Bear was injured before the Tiger showed up since you can see it resting and then get startled by the Tiger and charge it but unable to move. 


When unnamed “sources” are used without any real evidence it’s always better to take with a grain of salt. Especially with stuff like this.
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(06-09-2023, 06:39 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-09-2023, 06:00 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:46 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:40 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 07:20 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-08-2023, 06:59 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:
(03-27-2023, 10:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:

"Yesterday in Dhela Tourism Zone, Jim Corbett National Park. A bone chilling moment was captured by Naturalist Mr. Saurav.
A tiger and sloth bear come closer and fought for so long time.
Finally tiger won.
This was an amazing experience to see the survival of the fittest."


The tiger, who looks like a juvenile, killed that sloth bear later on:



*This image is copyright of its original author


https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/...1_&ref_url=

"This is the first time in Corbett that a tiger and a sloth bear were seen fighting with each other. It was later reported that the bear was hunted by the tiger and was killed."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new...s?from=mdr

"Tourists visiting the Jim Corbett National Park in Uttarakhand were lucky as they saw a fight between a sloth bear and a tiger in the wild. The tiger then went on to kill the sloth bear. Forest officials said that this is a natural phenomenon in the wild but the tourists were lucky to have witnessed such an episode."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide...s?from=mdr

The forest officials even mentioned in the news (on video) that the tiger killed the sloth bear. The tiger also clearly appears to be a juvenile.

The female Bears leg was broke, it was unable to move properly and had little hope after that. 
But to my knowledge there hasn’t been any photos of the Tiger actually making the kill or feeding on the bear so it still likely is 2nd hand.

The tiger could have broken that bear's leg previously, who knows. I see no reason to doubt the reports from the forest officials. Of course they must have seen some evidence, or at least received first-hand info via a reliable source (another forest ranger, guide etc) that the bear was indeed killed later on by the tiger.

Because they do all the time. Indian headlines and reports are misleading often. Not to mention there is no actual name or witness to actually confirm
any claim. Its possible the Tiger eventually killed the bear but point being that nobody that was there for this actual encounter saw that happen.

There's a video of the forest official saying that the tiger killed the bear. The tiger never killed the bear on the spot (referring to the encounter filmed on video), the reports mention that later on the tiger had killed the bear. So the forest officials must have received the news from another forest ranger or guide, who probably saw the bears dead, partially-eaten carcass later on. 

The tourists just filmed the initial encounter, but its very likely that the tiger came back later on and killed that bear. 

*This image is copyright of its original author
Sloth Bear was also said to be seen with its mother the next day. 

I do think the Bear was injured before the Tiger showed up since you can see it resting and then get startled by the Tiger and charge it but unable to move. 


When unnamed “sources” are used without any real evidence it’s always better to take with a grain of salt. Especially with stuff like this.

The commenter from your source stated that the sloth bear wasn't injured before the fight, whereas you think it was. So according to your opinion, he's also stating wrong info.

I honestly don't know what to make of this case. There are 2-3 reports, also a news video, stating that the tiger had killed the sloth bear. The forest officials even said so. But then some guy from a comment section claims that the bear survived.

Who said the bear was seen with its mother the next day?
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