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Bear Strength

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(11-22-2019, 09:16 PM)Shadow Wrote: Sometimes it´s hard work to get a meal. Pity that this video is so short.




Now if he could of dragged that Bison carcass out of the mud, that would of been something to see.
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(11-22-2019, 09:25 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(11-22-2019, 09:16 PM)Shadow Wrote: Sometimes it´s hard work to get a meal. Pity that this video is so short.




Now if he could of dragged that Bison carcass out of the mud, that would of been something to see.

Yes, I wonder if the person filming had dead battery or something, that video was definitely too short. Description says, that it pulled that bison from the mud but it´s odd that footage is that short.
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This would be relevant



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q3lsnkCo0
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(11-22-2019, 10:17 PM)Verdugo Wrote: This would be relevant



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q3lsnkCo0
Always when I see this video I hope, that it bit through that tyre.
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Pulling yourself out of a two-to-three ton vehicle, only to mis-align an about-to-be flattened tire and run for the people initially laughing for your entrapment under a vehicle is a boss move.
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(11-29-2019, 12:49 PM)Polar Wrote: Pulling yourself out of a two-to-three ton vehicle, only to mis-align an about-to-be flattened tire and run for the people initially laughing for your entrapment under a vehicle is a boss move.
I mean he got ran over by the damn vehicle and trapped under there for a while. And all it ever did was pissing him off...

Does anyone know how difficult it is to pull out a tire of a vehicle like that?
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The incredible strength of brown bears

"The brown bear has great strength. Banfield saw one drag carcass of a horse about 90 metres. In another case, a 360 kg grizzly killed and dragged a 450 kg bison"


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Beautiful specimen of a brown bear


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https://books.google.com.ua/books?id=Ob3Jn2kh7YkC&pg=PA122&dq=#v=onepage&q&f=false
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It looks like, that some things are good to remind time to time to avoid false information spreading. This (attached) "study" is even today used in some places as proof of spectacular bear strength, sadly it´s not real. Someone has used time to make it look like good, but when asked from that University, which is mentioned, they said it in very clear way, that total fake. Those people don´t exist and names are part of the joke, not real Russian names really.

So if you ever see this study "Muscular force analysis of young aged-brown bears" it´s good to know, that it´s fabricated, not real. Bears are strong, no question about it, but it´s good to keep things real.

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( This post was last modified: 05-10-2020, 02:53 AM by Shadow )

I still had this reply from Far Eastern Federal University, Russia. So this is related to my previous posting. Reply attached.

Text here too:
"Far Eastern Federal University as a university merged out of four previously existing universities, has been around only since 2011, therefore it could not award degrees in 1985. Back then it would be called Far Eastern State University, and this is how the university is credited amongst the students who have graduated back then in their resumes. Usually, the names of the university where the researcher has graduated from is not mentioned in the articles. Besides, in 1985 this university would not award M.S. degrees as back then the only similar degree awarded would be Specialist Degree.
We were unable to track people listed in the credits section of the article among our employees list.
Most last names listed in the Credits sections are put in such a manner that they would probably not exist in the Russian language. Previkni translates from Russian as “get used to it”, which is a verb form of a word and which is highly atypical for Russian last names. Aldurei Vladimirov’s first name looks like miss-spelled name Andrei. “Dr. Lenin-Krovik” would also probably not exist as it is somewhat close to “Washington-the-Rabbit” last name if you compare it to the English-language equivalency.
Not sure if we can judge the research content of the article, but the last names listed in the credits section sound like a joke.
Besides, this is not how you would put the names of the persons involved in research in the publication. Usually they appear on the top of the front page of the article, and list co-authors involved in writing the articles, and do not include administrators. "

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(05-10-2020, 02:27 AM)Shadow Wrote: I still had this reply from Far Eastern Federal University, Russia. So this is related to my previous posting. Reply attached.

Text here too:
"Far Eastern Federal University as a university merged out of four previously existing universities, has been around only since 2011, therefore it could not award degrees in 1985. Back then it would be called Far Eastern State University, and this is how the university is credited amongst the students who have graduated back then in their resumes. Usually, the names of the university where the researcher has graduated from is not mentioned in the articles. Besides, in 1985 this university would not award M.S. degrees as back then the only similar degree awarded would be Specialist Degree.
We were unable to track people listed in the credits section of the article among our employees list.
Most last names listed in the Credits sections are put in such a manner that they would probably not exist in the Russian language. Previkni translates from Russian as “get used to it”, which is a verb form of a word and which is highly atypical for Russian last names. Aldurei Vladimirov’s first name looks like miss-spelled name Andrei. “Dr. Lenin-Krovik” would also probably not exist as it is somewhat close to “Washington-the-Rabbit” last name if you compare it to the English-language equivalency.
Not sure if we can judge the research content of the article, but the last names listed in the credits section sound like a joke.
Besides, this is not how you would put the names of the persons involved in research in the publication. Usually they appear on the top of the front page of the article, and list co-authors involved in writing the articles, and do not include administrators. "



So the entire thing was faked?
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( This post was last modified: 05-11-2020, 02:21 PM by Shadow )

(05-10-2020, 05:00 PM)Asad981 Wrote:
(05-10-2020, 02:27 AM)Shadow Wrote: I still had this reply from Far Eastern Federal University, Russia. So this is related to my previous posting. Reply attached.

Text here too:
"Far Eastern Federal University as a university merged out of four previously existing universities, has been around only since 2011, therefore it could not award degrees in 1985. Back then it would be called Far Eastern State University, and this is how the university is credited amongst the students who have graduated back then in their resumes. Usually, the names of the university where the researcher has graduated from is not mentioned in the articles. Besides, in 1985 this university would not award M.S. degrees as back then the only similar degree awarded would be Specialist Degree.
We were unable to track people listed in the credits section of the article among our employees list.
Most last names listed in the Credits sections are put in such a manner that they would probably not exist in the Russian language. Previkni translates from Russian as “get used to it”, which is a verb form of a word and which is highly atypical for Russian last names. Aldurei Vladimirov’s first name looks like miss-spelled name Andrei. “Dr. Lenin-Krovik” would also probably not exist as it is somewhat close to “Washington-the-Rabbit” last name if you compare it to the English-language equivalency.
Not sure if we can judge the research content of the article, but the last names listed in the credits section sound like a joke.
Besides, this is not how you would put the names of the persons involved in research in the publication. Usually they appear on the top of the front page of the article, and list co-authors involved in writing the articles, and do not include administrators. "



So the entire thing was faked?

Well, I contacted that University after I was unable to find anything about that "study" from internet. I tried to search with those names and also in Russian language and result was 0. When some study is valid, there is always more information somewhere. So I wrote to University and reply is there in my earlier posting. If someone has doubts, it´s easy to write there and ask.

But yes, those people don´t exist, so that document is fake, there is no doubt about it. 

If you look that document and real studies from researchgate, you notice soon differences to real ones as that person who replied to me pointed out.

There is another claimed study about muscle fibres in this thread and I think, that it´s fake too, which is pity. 

I started to doubt that strength study because after thinking a moment, those results were just too good to be true. I mean approximately claimed to be 80 kg bear pulling weights, which even full grown male tigers or lions couldn´t unless on wheels. Common sense tells, that it´s simply impossible. Big bears are without a doubt the strongest terrestrial predatory animals, but not small bears.
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An Alaskan grizzly and polar bear interacting with humans in separate incidents:






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Not sure if these have been posted.

Brown bear drags a partially-eaten moose carcass
https://imgur.com/gallery/BXUrSSu

Brown bear pulls a bison carcass out of an icy lake
https://imgur.com/gallery/8PZc7k8
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Watch from min. 40:38.

https://youtu.be/eTC4WJ5npHw
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I found the original source, from the Brothetbear shared link. And this conduct me to a Nat Geo documentary "Expedition Wild". Here is the fact narrated in the wrote quotes. Watch from min. 40:38.
https://youtu.be/eTC4WJ5npHw

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