Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage

[Potato]

(04-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Psyckoo Wrote:

(04-11-2021, 02:18 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-11-2021, 01:58 PM)Tonpa Wrote: "2 of the Northern Avocas cautiously move deep into the Gowrie males territory.They were right at Mala Mala main camp."
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Wow that is quite deep, but these guys need to be careful, 2 vs 2 I still favor Bboys..

It was telling myself the same think about Styx and Nkuhuma, i still bet on Bboys, after if they bring Dark mane maybe that things can change

The think is that not always the males we expect to be stronger, turns out to be stronger indeed. Just to mention how anyone expected Matimbas to roll over Matshapiris or Old Avocas to roll over Thanda Impis and I think if Avocas would beat Birminghams it wouldn't be as big upsets as those two I just mentioned. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(04-11-2021, 02:43 PM)Potato Wrote: The think is that not always the males we expect to be stronger, turns out to be stronger indeed. Just to mention how anyone expected Matimbas to roll over Matshapiris or Old Avocas to roll over Thanda Impis and I think if Avocas would beat Birminghams it wouldn't be as big upsets as those two I just mentioned.

The biggest problem for Bboys is their age, chasing back and forth few times might exaust them and then anything can happen, in this area younger males of N. Avocas and Styx/NK definitely have the edge.. (Styx was not concerned of Nhenha getting very close to him, because he knew that he cant catch him..) 

While if the fight happened immidiately, pound for pound Nhenha and Tinyo are still strongest..

But its hard to predict this.. Reply

[Potato]

(04-11-2021, 03:03 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: The biggest problem for Bboys is their age, chasing back and forth few times might exaust

I do definitelly not think 10 years is such old to be so big of a factor. If Birminghams would be quicker to exaust then there would be rather their shape to blame, not age. I do not think tho Birminghams are despite their age in worst shape than Avocas. Also even if they will be quicker to exaust still I do not see how that could make any difference. Such 2vs2 in general cames to who can catch enemy separated so if Birminghams would not be resting separated then it should not be a factor.

(04-11-2021, 03:03 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Styx was not concerned of Nhenha getting very close to him, because he knew that he cant catch him..) 

Or he had Nkuchuma male somewhere not far or he wasn't worry to take 1 on 1 with Nhenha. Nhenha is not that old and in good shape. It is definitelly like he could not catch anythink and other lions could easly out run him. Reply

[Rabubi]

(04-11-2021, 02:18 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-11-2021, 01:58 PM)Tonpa Wrote: "2 of the Northern Avocas cautiously move deep into the Gowrie males territory.They were right at Mala Mala main camp."
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Wow that is quite deep, but these guys need to be careful, 2 vs 2 I still favor Bboys..

Same. Despite their age, the Bboys are still very powerful beasts. Reply

[1999gc8]

(04-11-2021, 01:14 PM)Potato Wrote: A shift in power looks imminent as 2 of the 3 Northern Avoca males push further south into the ageing Gowrie male's territory.

In frame: 'Mohawk' Northern Avoca male.

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(04-11-2021, 01:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-11-2021, 01:14 PM)Potato Wrote: A shift in power looks imminent as 2 of the 3 Northern Avoca males push further south into the ageing Gowrie male's territory.

In frame: 'Mohawk' Northern Avoca male.

MalaMala said that they will post a video of apperantly Avocas challenging Bboys..

Wonder if its actually true or yet again narrative..

It's actually happening as MalaMala justed posted a video of one of the N.Avoca's chasing a Gowrie male. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVRDYgf26A

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[Potato]

Nhenha probably wasn't aware if he was up against one or two Avocas so he wisely chossed to retreat. Point for Avocas althrought battle has just began and is not won yet at all. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(04-11-2021, 07:23 PM)Potato Wrote: Nhenha probably wasn't aware if he was up against one or two Avocas so he wisely chossed to retreat. Point for Avocas althrought battle has just began and is not won yet at all.

Im actually worrying for Mohawk, attacking alone on Bboys territory, if there was Tinyo also he would be dead.. That male is crazy.. Reply

[Dreadlocks]

I think we will see answer from Birmingham Boys! but first time during 6 year, i start worried about them, hard to see when your favorite coalition losing positions, but this is life! Reply

[T I N O]

These next few days/weeks and months will be really interesting to keep with the lion dynamics within the Sabi Sands Game Reserve. 

This time, the point is for the Avoca males, however, Mohawk is doing a risky move chasing to the Gowrie male without his brother, Nonetheless, wasn't this in the Avoca territory instead of the BBoys one? just judging for the map that MM posted Reply

[T I N O]

(04-11-2021, 07:43 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(04-11-2021, 07:23 PM)Potato Wrote: Nhenha probably wasn't aware if he was up against one or two Avocas so he wisely chossed to retreat. Point for Avocas althrought battle has just began and is not won yet at all.

Im actually worrying for Mohawk, attacking alone on Bboys territory, if there was Tinyo also he would be dead.. That male is crazy..

True haha Reply

[Tr1x24]

(04-11-2021, 08:02 PM)Dreadlocks Wrote: I think we will see answer from Birmingham Boys! but first time during 6 year, i start worried about them, hard to see when your favorite coalition losing positions, but this is life!

I think he was just suprised, out of nowhere Mohawk showed and start running towards he.. Nhenha prob taught he was not alone that deep in their territory..

But Mohawk is crazy, alone attacking.. Reply

[Hairy tummy]

I cant see the bboys backing down, maybe different in 6 month/year. The avoca probably just testing the water Reply

[Potato]

(04-11-2021, 11:33 PM)Hairy tummy Wrote: The avoca probably just testing the water

That they were doing for the past months moving deeper south step by step. They were even once chased by Nhenha in Londolozi. Now it seems they decided to came from testing waters into open challenge. Reply

[Tonpa]

Posted by Stephen Lee Sun who is currently on safari in elephant plains, guess they've gone back north for now. 

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[Tr1x24]

(04-12-2021, 12:40 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Posted by Stephen Lee Sun who is currently on safari in elephant plains, guess they've gone back north for now. 

That video is prob from few days ago, when Mohawk was seen in MalaMala. Reply