Asiatic Lion - Data, Pictures & Videos

[Pckts]

Here is asiatics old range as you can see, the furthest borders may cross over but I'd bet that the forests begin to become more dense and thus becomes more of the Tigers preferred habitat.




"Up until the 17th century, Asiatic lions were found as far west as Palestine and throughout Arabia, Persia and Northern India. The spread of firearms and indiscriminate hunting led to their extinction in most of these areas. By the end of the 1800s only a small population remained in Junagadh province on India’s west coast."

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[Vinay]

(11-16-2016, 11:04 PM)Pckts Wrote: Maybe this is true and maybe its not but that doesn't change the fact that as long as Humans have been able to record information and pass it down, there are no known images or stories of Lions and Tigers overlapping habitat other than one outrageous claim.

Even if they did share areas like "Central India or N. India" that doesn't mean that  they shared habitat and it's probably the reason why we cannot find any info on interaction or cohabitation between the two species.

But that doesn't mean that it didn't happen in the past, just not often obviously and the chances of it happening now are non existent unless the gov't changes its mind.

Are you kidding?? .... Asiatic lions were WORSHIPED like Gods in ancient Egyptian/Persian/Hindu cultures (Tigers are always bad and wild) for 1000's of years.Even Bible has many versus about Asiatic Lions. 

Asiatic lives in a pride and Bengals are solitary, so i don't think any problem in their peaceful coexistence.Already said, it will take 20+ years minimum.

@sanjay am from south not gujju. You want me to copy past links!!  btw See @Pckts links 15yr old data (350 lions) even after i clearly provides him data with images, still he hanging on with some old journals. Reply

[sanjay]

(11-16-2016, 09:19 PM)Vinay Wrote: 2.Africans lions fights are most probably fun fights, i rarely saw serious injury marks on them unlike Asiatic.

3.Regarding 'mane',it is just like peacock-train, females are attracted by it.Yup, mane is testosterone and health indicator and heat generator too.

 Vinay, You are not stopped here to discuss but at least show some maturity. You seems to have problem with every data and scientific facts and represent your sentences as whole and sole universal truth even without any solid proof.

Africans lions fights are most probably fun fights, i rarely saw serious injury marks on them unlike Asiatic.
This sentence of your make me feel that you are stating things out of blind without even thinking twice. I know you belong to Gujrat and hence you have an natural inclination towards Asiatic lions  but that does not mean you start putting your feeling and imagination as a final word in all over the forum. Stop doing this or at least add in your sentence that it is your personal thoughts.
And this is my request to you, first time. Please... Reply

[Pckts]

(11-16-2016, 11:20 PM)Vinay Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 11:04 PM)Pckts Wrote: Maybe this is true and maybe its not but that doesn't change the fact that as long as Humans have been able to record information and pass it down, there are no known images or stories of Lions and Tigers overlapping habitat other than one outrageous claim.

Even if they did share areas like "Central India or N. India" that doesn't mean that  they shared habitat and it's probably the reason why we cannot find any info on interaction or cohabitation between the two species.

But that doesn't mean that it didn't happen in the past, just not often obviously and the chances of it happening now are non existent unless the gov't changes its mind.

Are you kidding?? .... Asiatic lions were WORSHIPED like Gods in ancient Egyptian/Persian/Hindu cultures (Tigers are always bad and wild) for 1000's of years.Even Bible has many versus about Asiatic Lions. 

Asiatic lives in a pride and Bengals are solitary, so i don't think any problem in their peaceful coexistence.Already said it will take 20+ years minimum.

Asiatic and African Lions have been worshiped like Gods, Same with Tigers, Dragons, Birds, Half man/ Half Animal creatures, etc.
What does that have to do with anything we are discussing?
Where have you seen accounts of interactions between Asiatic Lions and Bengal Tigers?
Any eye witness accounts, Hunting accounts, Researchers accounts, accounts in history, etc? Reply

[Vinay]

(11-16-2016, 11:27 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 11:20 PM)Vinay Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 11:04 PM)Pckts Wrote: Humans have been able to record information and pass it down, 

Are you kidding?? .... Asiatic lions were WORSHIPED like Gods in ancient Egyptian/Persian/Hindu cultures (Tigers are always bad and wild) for 1000's of years.Even Bible has many versus about Asiatic Lions. 

Asiatic and African Lions have been worshiped like Gods, Same with Tigers, Dragons, Birds, Half man/ Half Animal creatures, etc.
What does that have to do with anything we are discussing?

Check two underlines. 

yup,I strongly believes 1-300yr old hunters data is pure garbage and 1000's old CIVILIZATION structures,gods and idols have some TRUTH!!  Reply

[Pckts]

(11-16-2016, 11:40 PM)Vinay Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 11:27 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 11:20 PM)Vinay Wrote:

(11-16-2016, 11:04 PM)Pckts Wrote: Humans have been able to record information and pass it down, 

Are you kidding?? .... Asiatic lions were WORSHIPED like Gods in ancient Egyptian/Persian/Hindu cultures (Tigers are always bad and wild) for 1000's of years.Even Bible has many versus about Asiatic Lions. 

Asiatic and African Lions have been worshiped like Gods, Same with Tigers, Dragons, Birds, Half man/ Half Animal creatures, etc.
What does that have to do with anything we are discussing?

Check two underlines. 

yup,I strongly believes 1-300yr old hunters data is pure garbage and 1000's old CIVILIZATION structures,gods and idols have some TRUTH!! 

You and I are on the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to where we put our beliefs. Reply

[Tshokwane]

It seems another male has died of old age.

Maulana male, credits to Drupad Patel.

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[Tshokwane]

Credfits to Arif Junach.

MAULANA PASSES AWAY


One of the longest surviving lions of Gir, nicknamed "Maulana" because of his very "friendly" behavior towards people, passed away on 17th November 2016. He was around seventeen years, which could be unique record for a wild lion.

Maulana and his brother "Kamlesh" (or Pattavalo, as he was radio collared), ruled vast territory for several years, fought grueling battles to protect many prides in their area. We were worried about old aged Maulana, when Kamlesh passed away before a couple of years. However, it was a pleasant surprise to see that new males, who had taken his territory, did allow him there for quite some time. Later, he changed his territory and was seen around Talala revenue 

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[Ngala]

Photo and information credits: Abhishek Deshmukh
My first ever click of Asiatic Male Lion
Gir National Park
June 2016

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Asiatic Male lion
Sasan gir
Gir national park 

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[Ba Ba Lou]

The lion spoken of in the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Masorectic Text and the Tanakh is the Asiatic lion, not the African lion. Reply

[GrizzlyClaws]

(12-21-2016, 04:18 AM)Ba Ba Lou Wrote: The lion spoken of in the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Masorectic Text and the Tanakh is the Asiatic lion, not the African lion.

Asiatic lion = Persian lion = Barbary lion = European lion

These are just some regional variants of the very same subspecies known as "Panthera leo persica". Reply

[Vinay]

Panicked villagers flee for their lives as LION slaughters cow and feasts on its bloody carcass before prowling streets (Near Gir)

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After about an hour, the lioness was guided back to the reserve forest area by rangers.

For video and information open the link http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/...on-9485022 Reply

[Ba Ba Lou]

GrizzlyClaws,

Much agreed Reply

[Gamiz]

(12-21-2016, 04:18 AM)Ba Ba Lou Wrote: The lion spoken of in the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, the Masorectic Text and the Tanakh is the Asiatic lion, not the African lion.

In the Bible there are references of both the African lion and the Asian lion. Reply

[GrizzlyClaws]

(12-22-2016, 08:20 AM)Ba Ba Lou Wrote: GrizzlyClaws,

Much agreed

The African lion as a single subspecies also has many different clades; the East African lion and South African lion are obviously two different clades within a same subspecies.

The West/Central African lion is also a unique clade of the African lion subspecies, and this particular clade had later given the birth of a brand new subspecies known as "Panthera leo persica".

In my own opinion, the African lion should be considered as the nominated subspecies as "Panthera leo leo", since it is the original Panthera leo, and "Panthera leo persica" is just a mutated version of "Panthera leo leo". Reply