Big cat and Bear tale

[Garfield]

(05-04-2017, 05:47 AM)Rishi Wrote:

(05-04-2017, 04:34 AM)Garfield Wrote: Yeah, heh well tigers big enough no doubt they gut that market cornered.  But da bears gut mad props for durability and stamina bigleague.  I mean I would of thought like say the Siberian tiger would of mauled some bear behind, but from what Ive seen and don't quote me on it, but there is some mother load of accounts on these fights, and tha Bears whip the tiger behinds, I mean like dozens of accounts.  So yeh individuality is always a factor, but when you have a bunch load of accounts, and all the tigers lose, that's straight up factual right then and there at that point. Especially when the tigers are prime males and killers some of them.  Then you have one bear, waste 3 tigers, and so on.  Plus the bear should be bigger usually too. I mean the tiger can win too, but its not on the average beating the bear.  All the species aren't equal for sure, they can defend an stuff, but like say a rhino or a bull, those things are going to slaughter the bigcats in fights, on the average, elephant and so on right?


But about the bears and tigers, I was talking to this bear guy on youtube, and he was from another country, I think it was Russia some where around Europe, and he was tellin everyone they have it all backwards, tigers just don't take out grown bears, here's what he posted to me. I thought it was funny becaz all the tiger bros were getting all mad and I'm like give the bear some props guys, I mean their built tough different than cats, stuff is legit.  Here's the guys post below, its gut biologist and stuff in it..............

"The male Amur tiger will predate Asiatic black bears and sub adult and female brown bears. According to telemetry data on tigers from 1992-2003, half the attacks on brown bears occur during hibernation but no males were killed despite their vulnerable state of hibernation.. According to former Russian biologist S.P. Kucherenko & early Naturalist N.A. Baikov tigers will only attack bears of similar or smaller size which translates to female and sub adult bears, not the larger male brown bear. There has been no record of male brown bears killed by tigers but there are records of male Amur tigers killed by brown bears & some of them were cannibalized. According to Russian biologists I.V. Seryodkin, N.A. Raikov, & Park Manager G.F. Gorokhov, adult Usurri female brown bear are not easy prey for dominant male Amur tigers either - some of the larger female brown bears have inflicted severe injury to the victorious but bloodied tiger. Adult male Far Eastern brown bears often use and also usurp Amur tiger carrion which sometimes include multiple tigers in the form a mother tiger and her 2-3 year old large adult size offspring. SO THE ANSWER IS, tigers may kill adult males bears while hibernating or via ambush, but on face-to-face encounters, a male brown bear (specially the large far eastern brown bear) COULD KILL even the largest siberian tiger..."

Ok, i can see where this is going, so let's get it over with...(Also d MODs r likely gonna delete the post 'cause i reported it for being out of topic, plz don't mind)

What the "bear-guy" said is pretty accurate.. given the Eastern-brown's size, the cat might end up on the wrong side in a sh!t-hit-the-fan brawl, with a PRIME MALE.
& Mothers with cubs would never even take it that far.

But the post #47shows what normal interactions look like (i used cougars as i couldn't find tigers').


For the rest see #106 #107 ( http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-animal-trainers?page=8 ) for what kind of tiger (& lion) specimens they had (don't know why so)..& by some miracle managed to keep most alive.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't mess with a bear, their tough mothers.  But yeah thanks for the tip off I'll check out that trainer stuff. Reply