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03-21-2025, 04:30 PM( This post was last modified: 03-30-2025, 09:13 PM by criollo2mil )
(03-17-2025, 05:00 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(03-16-2025, 05:42 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(02-20-2025, 07:25 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hello!
I'm sharing a slightly improved version Tsalala-Mangheni-Kambula family tree, adding the contributions that I received. Info from recet sightings was considered.
Note that it is impossible to include all lions that have been born, so you can see:
- Adults with offspring or regular member of a pride.
- Emblematic individuals
- Current subadults (>2 years old)
- Current cubs (<2 years of age)
I recommend you to download the image to read more crearly. Hope you like it.
Looking at this family tree a little closer, I have a question. Considering the Mhangheni #4 lioness had 4 offspring that survived to adulthood, which isn't much more than the other original lionesses: Mhangheni #1 (3 adult offspring), Mhangheni #2 (3 adult offspring), and Mhangheni #3 (2 adult offspring), does anyone know why she was called 'Super Mom'?
Also I think there's a Kambula sub missing from the tree. There should be nine, but I only count 8, including the 2 listed as cubs (K9's).
Hello my friend.
If I remember correctly, "Super Mom" was the mother of the OM daughter that sadly passed away after many months being the only cub alive (the cub was called "Hope"). She is also the mother of Tinya, the only Mangheni offspring sired by Bboys. So I think the name was based more in her efforts to raise cubs in adversity, rather than the numbers.
I missed one subadult because it was reported to be killed by Styx male, but then recovered well. I'm going to attach an updated version to this post.
Interesting video... the 3 cubs that showed up were males.
This is FANTASTIC.....Herculian effort in documenting one of the more beloved lineages in the Sabi Sand!!
(03-30-2025, 05:50 PM)sunless Wrote: Ndhzenga males with Ntsevu pride
Interesting that the guide said the two Ndzenga males are 'the exact same age', and yet they're listed with different ages in the Mala Mala monthly reports.
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(03-30-2025, 05:50 PM)sunless Wrote: Ndhzenga males with Ntsevu pride
Interesting that the guide said the two Ndzenga males are 'the exact same age', and yet they're listed with different ages in the Mala Mala monthly reports.
yea over the last few months some unsure things have been coming out the Ndzenga males may be actually months apart not years apart and the 3 old N'waswitshaka males (I believe I seen a post someone nicknamed them the matasaka males) maybe not they fathers but the Phabeni males (C1 and C2 and another male) is they was in a coalition with fourways blondie if im not mistaken
(03-30-2025, 05:50 PM)sunless Wrote: Ndhzenga males with Ntsevu pride
Interesting that the guide said the two Ndzenga males are 'the exact same age', and yet they're listed with different ages in the Mala Mala monthly reports.
Hi. I had a question. Ndhzenga male lions were with Nestuvu. How many young cub lionesses and male lion?
(03-30-2025, 05:50 PM)sunless Wrote: Ndhzenga males with Ntsevu pride
Interesting that the guide said the two Ndzenga males are 'the exact same age', and yet they're listed with different ages in the Mala Mala monthly reports.
yea over the last few months some unsure things have been coming out the Ndzenga males may be actually months apart not years apart and the 3 old N'waswitshaka males (I believe I seen a post someone nicknamed them the matasaka males) maybe not they fathers but the Phabeni males (C1 and C2 and another male) is they was in a coalition with fourways blondie if im not mistaken
They are.
Speculation that Amahle was older came from early days as he was much more developed than the rest, but thats no indication that he is older whatsoever.
Photos of them as cubs/subs prove they where all same age, maybe not littermates (although possible), but same generation of litters.
And yes, new discovery is that Amahle and OE where sired by 2 Phabeni males and not 3 Old N'ws (older Phabeni males, not the 3 recent ones who partnered with Fourways Blondie).
(03-30-2025, 05:50 PM)sunless Wrote: Ndhzenga males with Ntsevu pride
Interesting that the guide said the two Ndzenga males are 'the exact same age', and yet they're listed with different ages in the Mala Mala monthly reports.
yea over the last few months some unsure things have been coming out the Ndzenga males may be actually months apart not years apart and the 3 old N'waswitshaka males (I believe I seen a post someone nicknamed them the matasaka males) maybe not they fathers but the Phabeni males (C1 and C2 and another male) is they was in a coalition with fourways blondie if im not mistaken
They are.
Speculation that Amahle was older came from early days as he was much more developed than the rest, but thats no indication that he is older whatsoever.
Photos of them as cubs/subs prove they where all same age, maybe not littermates (although possible), but same generation of litters.
And yes, new discovery is that Amahle and OE where sired by 2 Phabeni males and not 3 Old N'ws (older Phabeni males, not the 3 recent ones who partnered with Fourways Blondie).
do we have the proof that Amahle and OE are sired by them like pictures,articles etc etc? I'ma big fan of them would like to know more about they heritage
(03-30-2025, 05:50 PM)sunless Wrote: Ndhzenga males with Ntsevu pride
Interesting that the guide said the two Ndzenga males are 'the exact same age', and yet they're listed with different ages in the Mala Mala monthly reports.
yea over the last few months some unsure things have been coming out the Ndzenga males may be actually months apart not years apart and the 3 old N'waswitshaka males (I believe I seen a post someone nicknamed them the matasaka males) maybe not they fathers but the Phabeni males (C1 and C2 and another male) is they was in a coalition with fourways blondie if im not mistaken
They are.
Speculation that Amahle was older came from early days as he was much more developed than the rest, but thats no indication that he is older whatsoever.
Photos of them as cubs/subs prove they where all same age, maybe not littermates (although possible), but same generation of litters.
And yes, new discovery is that Amahle and OE where sired by 2 Phabeni males and not 3 Old N'ws (older Phabeni males, not the 3 recent ones who partnered with Fourways Blondie).
do we have the proof that Amahle and OE are sired by them like pictures,articles etc etc? I'ma big fan of them would like to know more about they heritage
(Yesterday, 09:19 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: I believe I saw on a post that k7s 4 young cubs are all males
Hi. Interesting. It means there is four cubs from Kambula five and four cubs with Kambula 7?
A nice picture of young male kambula. I can see Birmingham relative, maybe hip scar, Kinky tail, Mufumu, tinyo? I wonder might be son of older Nzdhenga ?
