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Lions of Sabi Sands

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"Six male lions laying out in an open area caused excitement among all rangers and guests. This many new male lions on the reserve is exciting but could spell trouble for the existing lions. The Styx Pride appear to be the first to have had a run in with the new boys on the block. The Styx Pride had been split and members found all over. Unfortunately, the remains of one of the Styx cubs were found. The Styx Pride then moved northeast and regrouped at the waterhole in front of Selati Camp. The pride now consists of two adults and seven sub-adults. Interesting times in the ever-changing lion dynamics lie ahead."


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(12-05-2022, 11:33 AM)Tonpa Wrote: The Styx Pride had been split and members found all over. Unfortunately, the remains of one of the Styx cubs were found. The Styx Pride then moved northeast and regrouped at the waterhole in front of Selati Camp. The pride now consists of two adults and seven sub-adults. Interesting times in the ever-changing lion dynamics lie ahead."
Any information about the composition of 7 remaining cubs?
When they were 8, it was 2M , 6F.
Hopefully female cubs would be safe.
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(12-05-2022, 08:11 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Kambulas are only 4, these new males have twice their numbers and a prime lion with them. If they stay in SS my guess is that they'll make quick work of the Gijima males, which is unfortunate since the southern lioness was extremely lucky her new dominant males accepted her daughters.

After finishing the Gijimas off, I think they'll go for the Ndzengas, and honestly, I doubt they'll put much of a fight. If that happens, the rest of the SS prides can only hope these males will be satisfied with their territory and prides, allowing them to finish raising whatever cubs they still have, though as 8, they'll for sure split and might end up taking over the entire reserve.
Seems like dreadlocks -nkhulu coalition already splits.
2 young boys head towards mala mala ( ndhzengas and kambula girls) while 4 nkhulu along with dreadlocks are in gijima males territory.



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(12-05-2022, 10:51 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Indeed. They also lack real experience. That there is a older male with them does not mean he is the leader training them. 

Yea, i dont think Dreadlocks is their leader, its prob opposite, he follows them. 

He joined / got accepted by Nkuhlu breakaway pride earlier this year. 

Breakaway's had hard time so far, they where abandoned by Mantimahles around mid 2020, few lionesses saved them from S129 males, as they where still too young to survive, and later they where avoiding 3 Mazithi/Tshokwane males who beat S129 around early 2021. 

These guys are basically semi nomads/ nomads for more then 2 years, its actually quite remarkable how many of them survived to this point, they also have few sisters.
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(12-05-2022, 01:32 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Seems like dreadlocks -nkhulu coalition already splits.

Not sure from where is that info, all of them where seen at Sabi Sabi after they cross from MalaMala.
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(12-05-2022, 01:33 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: These guys are basically semi nomads/ nomads for more then 2 years, its actually quite remarkable how many of them survived to this point, they also have few sisters.
Three sisters were seen with these young males last month.
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( This post was last modified: 12-05-2022, 04:09 PM by Tr1x24 )

Again at MalaMala, they are scent marking, interesting:




Looks like there is 5 of them (not 6) and Dreadlocks (atleast on this video). 

3 other brothers are split now for few months (those 3 might be ones who escaped Kruger).
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@Tr1x24 these are the pictures of the Nkhula young males with their three sisters in Skukuza last month. The rangers told me that 6 Nkhula males and Dreadlocks (not pictured) were sighted. 




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(12-05-2022, 03:43 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Again at MalaMala, they are scent marking, interesting:




Looks like there is 5 of them (not 6) and Dreadlocks (atleast on this video). 

3 other brothers are split now for few months (those 3 might be ones who escaped Kruger).

They look like they're on the larger side as well. Imagine if they grow to a size similar to the PC Males. 

Prior to the Othawa male death there really wasn't much happening in Sabi Sands. A lot has changed in the last 12-18 months.
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This male is one of the more impressive ones, very muscular build :

Photo credits : Legendsafaris 


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Its this guy in recent video :


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Nice work tr1x24, the blonde fellow looks a right specimen
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(12-05-2022, 09:33 PM)Hairy tummy Wrote: Nice work tr1x24, the blonde fellow looks a right specimen

I hope they have some experience fighting or even fighting themselves or buffalo on a regular basis.
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Monday, 28 November 2022
The Talamati pride consisting of 3 females, 5 cubs and the S8 male were sleeping at Jacana Lodge.
 
Tuesday, 29 November 2022
The Talamati pride with the 5 cubs, 3 lioness and the S8 Male were found walking along Ngala Rd Buffelshoek.

Friday, 2 December 2022
Nkuhuma Sub-Adult Lions made up of 4 Males and 3 Females were found heading East Londolozi Cutline.

Sunday, 4 December 2022
Nkuhuma Sub Adults were lazing about Just north of Silvan Safari lodge, on A main.


https://www.elephantplains.co.za/big-5-b...mber-2022/
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(12-05-2022, 03:43 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Again at MalaMala, they are scent marking, interesting:




Looks like there is 5 of them (not 6) and Dreadlocks (atleast on this video). 

3 other brothers are split now for few months (those 3 might be ones who escaped Kruger).

so i thought there a sighting of 9 of them where the other 2 are they alive?
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I have the feeling nomadic coalitions in that area typically end up veering towards Londolozi.

From there they may move west. Though with the rise of the PCmales and the collapse of the Avocas. The north may now be the path of least resistance. Which may be bad news for the Avocas.
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