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it was Noor?
https://www.ranthambhoreguides.com/tigers/noor?sort=-zone&page=3&per-page=10

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpgNbiBuHWk

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(12-20-2017, 12:44 AM)Diamir2 Wrote: it was Noor?
https://www.ranthambhoreguides.com/tigers/noor?sort=-zone&page=3&per-page=10

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpgNbiBuHWk

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I thought the body frame reminded me more of a sub adult than an Adult, seemed a bit more stocky and full bellied with a smaller head but it's really hard to tell with the blurred images.
The only sub adult it could be I think would be one of T-60's cubs.

Here's one from this past May 
The right leg stripes look very close to the video above




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all of them from this past April

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(12-20-2017, 01:42 AM)Pckts Wrote:
(12-20-2017, 12:44 AM)Diamir2 Wrote: it was Noor?
https://www.ranthambhoreguides.com/tigers/noor?sort=-zone&page=3&per-page=10

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpgNbiBuHWk

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I thought the body frame reminded me more of a sub adult than an Adult, seemed a bit more stocky and full bellied with a smaller head but it's really hard to tell with the blurred images.
The only sub adult it could be I think would be one of T-60's cubs.

Here's one from this past May 
The right leg stripes look very close to the video above




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all of them from this past April

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surely,it was an unknown young tiger





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Yep, it's not Noor...Sorry.

Their left flank is kinda similar & got me confused. But right flank is totally different.
@Diamir2 how did you even pause it there without blurring?


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Inexperienced subadult tigress. Next
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/vlad...d=32462122 
 
“By the time we arrived at his hunting-ground, there wasn’t much left of Boris’ feast,” Vyacheslav Kastrikin, the park’s deputy director, told Interfax. “So it was hard to say if it was a brown bear or an Asian black bear."
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Whenever a tiger is found feeding on the carcass of a grizzly, or a grizzly is discovered feeding upon the carcass of a tiger, I come to no rash conclusions. Especially if both animals are mature males. I do believe that such killings take place in the Russian wilderness - both ways - but I believe that such primordial battles between these two Lords of the Russian taiga are uncommon. It is also interesting that both the tiger and the grizzly hunt, battle, and kill the giant Russian wild boar. A highly aggressive and dangerous prey choice yet a favorite of both predators.
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(12-30-2017, 06:20 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Whenever a tiger is found feeding on the carcass of a grizzly, or a grizzly is discovered feeding upon the carcass of a tiger, I come to no rash conclusions. Especially if both animals are mature males. I do believe that such killings take place in the Russian wilderness - both ways - but I believe that such primordial battles between these two Lords of the Russian taiga are uncommon. It is also interesting that both the tiger and the grizzly hunt, battle, and kill the giant Russian wild boar. A highly aggressive and dangerous prey choice yet a favorite of both predators.

The bears are opportunists who are not so picky about the preys, and it would eat whatever it is available to them.

Even the bones of the Cave lions were known to get chewed by the more herbivorous Cave bears, so the scenario of the bears feeding on the big cats' carcass on the wild shouldn't be that uncommon. On the other way around, the big cats were also infamously known for feeding on the hibernating bears.
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(12-19-2017, 11:50 PM)Pckts Wrote: I'm no graphic designer that's for sure but here's my attempt at comparing both.
The bear is a little closer to the camera, the tiger runs behind the true and the bear runs in front, but still cool to see.

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The tiger is smaller then the female bear. The tiger is clearly a cub.
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The bear is closer to the camera. In the video, the tiger ( male or female ) did not look like a juvenile at all. But, why the big fuss about it? A mother bear is being protective of her cubs; perfectly natural. In the beginning of the video, the tiger was lounging; meaning ( he or she ) was not hunting - thus not very hungry. The tiger simply had no reason to press a fight. Really no big deal.
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It’s t-60s sub adult son, it was discussed the page before @paul cooper
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Only in the R.F.E.
                            
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In India, where lions live, according to Wolverine, and I believe him, there are no sloth bears. A sloth bear, when he feels threatened, can be highly aggressive. He can sometimes fight off even a big male tiger. But lions have a huge advantage - numbers. One bear, especially one as small as a sloth bear cannot fight off two or more lions.
In the distant past, let's say several thousand years ago, there were grizzlies ( Ursus arctos ) living pretty much throughout all of Northern Asia, Europe, and N. America. Wolverine is absolutely right, I feel certain. No grizzly would dare to challenge more than a single lion over a carcass. A pride of lions, or a coalition of male lions, might even choose a healthy grizzly boar as potential prey. Therefore, even a grizzly would avoid locations inhabited by lions. 
It may be that, in Pleistocene N. America that perhaps prides of Smilodons were as great a threat to the grizzly as was the giant short-faced bears. But fossil evidence proves that grizzlies did live there, although it appears so in relatively small numbers. I can't even imagine a mother grizzly with cubs in such a place and time. No wonder the bad attitude of a mother grizzly.
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