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Beware of hackers: Stay safe from hacking
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THE HACKER - FINAL REPORT AND THREAD CLOSURE
A - THE FORUM 01 - This forum is about predators in general and big cats in particular. The goal is to collect good info and to discuss issues neglected by biologists. We want good posters able to deliver. Those interested in other things are adviced to go elsewhere. 02 - In the last weeks, forum rule -5- was violated more than once. Forum rule -6- wasn't applied correctly. The result was a lot of crap. B - THE HACKING 03 - After the hacking attempt, we decided for some research. Members were interviewed and all posts were read. 04 - We concluded Ptigris is the only suspect. C - PROCEEDINGS 05 - Ptigris was invited to answer a number of questions. 06 - Ptigris avoided the questions and offered a story impossible to check. 07 - When addressed, he lectured one co-owner and threatened the other. D - THE DEFENCE OF PTIGRIS 08 - When confronted with the questions, Ptigris said he was able to answer because he had cooperated with him. However, he asked for a public thread first. This because a public thread offered protection, Ptigris said. Protection from the hacker, that is. He also told us not to underestimate the hacker. Any attempt to expose him would result in a dead forum, he said. Finally, he adviced us not to conduct research, as it was bound to result in failure. E - RESPONSE 09 - The committee installed to solve the problem concluded the story of Ptigris suited the hacker in all respects. It also concluded Ptigris talked and acted on behalf of the hacker. His final advice was meant to discourage research into the matter. 10 - Ptigris and the hacker are one and the same. This conclusion was tested in that Ptigris was enabled to see, enter and close the trap himself. The trap that was set for him, that is. F - THE TRAP 11 - Ptigris got his public thread: this one. In spite of his promise, he didn't talk about the hacker. He talked about himself. Typical for a hacker. 12 - Ptigris didn't post on animals. In 4 months, he got to 14 shortish posts, for which he needed no less than 7 hours. He didn't join the forum to contribute, but for something else. The time he needed suggests he needed to log in to do what he wanted to do. Again typical for hacker. 13 - Ptigris only showed himself when the forum was attacked. He showed himself when he featured, that is. It wasn't about the forum. It was about him (see -11-). 14 - Ptigris said the story about the hacker is a long one. Impossible to understand without the proper credentials, he told Sanjay, who was dismissed as incompetent. A bold move for someone under suspicion, but Ptigris wasn't bothered. A member would be, but a hacker wouldn't. 15 - Ptigris said the hacker had something on him. In spite of that, he was willing to disclose personal information about the hacker in a public thread (...). But what about the alleged reprisals of the hacker? If the story of Ptigris is true, the place to go to is the law. This he didn't do. The reason is Ptigris and the hacker are one and the same. 16 - Ptigris said the hacker started hacking because he wanted to hit lion posters. However, the facts say only tiger threads were targeted. The conclusion has to be that the hacking isn't about lion posters. It is about something different. The question is what. As both owners of this forum were targeted and dismissed, it is likely envy was the real drive. Ptigris wanted to start a forum, but Sanjay beat him to it. 17 - The computer where the attack (on this forum) originated was very close to the one of Ptigris. Both used the same system as well, again underlining that Ptigris and the hacker are one and the same. G - CONCLUSIONS 18 - The forum rules are clear and effective. The problem is they were not applied when it was needed. 19 - Ptigris is the hacker. He violated rule -5-. 20 - Jinen isn't involved in the hacking, but he too violated rule -5- and more than once at that. H - DECISIONS 21 - Forum rules have to be respected. One violation is a warning and two is out. 22 - Ptigris violated rule -5-. Same for Jinen. Both are out, never to return. 23 - This thread will be closed. This forum is about animals and not something else. 
One have to understand that the entire success and good will of a forum stands in a balance of power ( the numbers of tiger moderators have to be equal to the lion mods), or else...the abuses will flow from the dominant side.
The history tells us that tiger fans were moderators on all forums, the result is well known ...dramas. Balance my friends, balance...and the good info will flow in humongous numbers from all sides, unless of course, we don't want that extra good info on anything but the tiger, which seems to be the case. Good luck with this forum, definitely not a place where a resourceful lion poster can thrive. JinenFORDRAGON.  (08-23-2014, 09:55 PM)'Jinenfordragon' Wrote: One have to understand that the entire success and good will of a forum stands in a balance of power ( the numbers of tiger moderators have to be equal to the lion mods), or else...the abuses will flow from the dominant side. Jinen, Your fundamental way of looking at this forum is the problem. This forum is not about Tiger vs lion, it never was and it never will be. This is a place for all animal enthusiasts, plain and simple. When posters like Lioness, Pantherinae, Vinod etc were able to post and share good knowledge and good information on lions, I dont see why you were unable with that. Ive seen you have a hatred towards tiger fans, but just leave those hatreds, insults, grudges and hard feelings at yuku boards. Start fresh here you will feel better. If you feel that you want to be a part of this forum, respect its rules and can contribute something useful about the animals you love, then let me know. (08-23-2014, 10:57 PM)'Apollo' Wrote:(08-23-2014, 09:55 PM)'Jinenfordragon' Wrote: One have to understand that the entire success and good will of a forum stands in a balance of power ( the numbers of tiger moderators have to be equal to the lion mods), or else...the abuses will flow from the dominant side. Old story, all the ava yukus were a place for animal enthusiasts. This place is no different, mods always interfering getting over enthusiast by the tiger and spamming lion threads is only one example of 'disorder'. The owners(peter, sanjay) are tiger fans, the mods as well, probably the next mod will be ...guess what? another tiger fan. You just want a place of your own, with no lion moderators where you can flex your muscles all day long in peace.Roflcopters admitted at one point, pretty recent on WC's AvA, that he wants that place to be only tiger info, because he honestly is not interested in other big cats, maximum respect for the sincerity.Why all of you ''staff members'' would be any different? Indeed, stop selling that neutral bull sh*t, is not working. Regarding contribution, me and any other lion sider will not contribute with anything substantial, because you see, this forum is not much different from any of the two AvA's in composition. 
I think you are mistaken Jinen. Much less bias than there was on past forums.
(08-23-2014, 11:04 PM)'Jinenfordragon' Wrote:(08-23-2014, 10:57 PM)'Apollo' Wrote:(08-23-2014, 09:55 PM)'Jinenfordragon' Wrote: One have to understand that the entire success and good will of a forum stands in a balance of power ( the numbers of tiger moderators have to be equal to the lion mods), or else...the abuses will flow from the dominant side. I see you made your choice, not to contribute and just to blame the forum and the staffs. Good for being straight forward. I hope you enjoyed your stay at Wildfact. GoodBye 
Jinen, You don't have any respect for any animal. Very sad to know that you never wanted to change yourself.
Great points and conclusion abstracted by you Peter, You have really done great job here to dig this issue hard. I completely agree on your points. And many of action has been already taken
Ptigris/Paul
You key-logged me and took my identity. You also key-logged others. Before you destroyed the Yuku forums, you crapped the best threads with garbage only able to grow in minds that compare to those who got their chance 75 years ago. Some of those affected by the destruction you created decided to start another forum. They are good people driven by real passion for something quickly disappearing right in front of our eyes. Through their forum, they offer those who live in wild country a voice. These people give it their best and will continue to do so. Many appreciate their effort and their number will continue to grow. This week, you decided to pay them a visit. Before you was able to drop your garbage, you was seen. Before you was deleted, you was invited to get out of your cage and communicate about the black mass that replaced your soul. Just long enough to get the information needed. Where I come from, creatures like you are considered worse than those who prey on the helpless. Out of any law, they are. The people you targeted over the years were affected. To say some of them bear a grudge would be a serious understatement. This week, you added at least four more to the long list. Your goal was to get noticed. You was. You wanted attention. You got it. You could regret the day you decided to enter the world of others if you continue. They are angry and I mean angry. You have no idea. Because I'm the one who initiated the search, they talk to me. In spite of what happened, I decided against the proposals. My aim is this forum and not anger. It could open doors of rooms I don't want to see. But I will say this to you. Go the other way. And never ever return. 
I swear this guy is like the troll version of the terminatrix. He just won't stop. I can't believe this guy came back after all this time.
Malikc, Nothing to worry about. Just Read these tips http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-stay-safe-from-hacking it will make you safe from hacking. everything is fine here.
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