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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
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 (03-29-2025, 10:45 PM)sunless Wrote:(03-29-2025, 10:36 PM)Ngonya Wrote: The darker NK male As @Tr1x24 recently commented, he has always had a unique appearance, his eyes most certainly add to that.  (03-29-2025, 10:42 PM)sunless Wrote:(03-29-2025, 10:26 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Weird though that he would go all the way down to Kirkman's Camp by himself, then back up north to then meet up with the KM. When I said 'back up north' I meant relatively to Kirkman's Kamp, which is right down in the south of Sabi Sands, and south-east of Umkumbe. Assuming the pictures of him alone at KK were taken first, he was chased out of the west, ended up alone all the way down in KK with fresh injuries, and then later linked back up with the KM in Umkumbe. Now that I think about it it's not so strange, nomads bounce around all over the place, but interesting that he ended up back in his old territory. 
Lions tend to return to familiar places when they really are shaken mentally.
 
I am starting to think that Mohawk is the last, and that isn't even 100% at this point. He's not seen that much either anymore.
 (03-29-2025, 09:13 PM)Ngonya Wrote: February 2025 Whoa poor boy. No chances to be alive right now, sadly.  (03-29-2025, 09:13 PM)Ngonya Wrote: February 2025 It is heartbreaking to see what’s happened to him. Once such a vibrant male lion. Looks like he took a real beating, losing an eye in the process. Poor guy. He’s undoubtedly passed on by now. I know these lions, especially the males, live a very hard life in the wild. Seemingly most ending up with the same fate of being a shadow of their former formidable and vibrant selves, destroyed by younger and stronger lions and/or old age, but it’s still difficult to see. (03-29-2025, 10:36 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Nkuhuma males with lioness and cubs at Kruger S36 earlier this year Actually, both males share many facial features with their mothers. It is commonly said that the offspring of the Avoca in the Talamati pride are Dark Mane's sons, while the offspring in the Nkuhuma pride are Mohawk and Blondie’s sons. However, the truth is that all three males were mating with Nkuhuma females (not that sure with Talamatis) in early 2019. Chela’s son looks a lot like her, so I’m not sure whether he resembles Mohawk or Blondie more. He should be the son of one of them because he doesn’t have Dark Mane’s features and was born in late 2019, conceived after the coalition split had already been established. I’m not sure if this has been discussed before, but to me, Ridge Nose’s son is clearly Dark Mane’s offspring.
Ooooh chelas son to me is blondies boy but if we could get a comparison with ridgenoses boy too Darkmane and Mohawk I’ve always said he’s Mohawks son but I’m not 100% on that
 (03-30-2025, 06:25 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I am starting to think that Mohawk is the last, and that isn't even 100% at this point. He's not seen that much either anymore.He was posted today in a Kruger group at Facebook, but im just not sure how recent. (03-30-2025, 08:14 PM)FACR2212 Wrote: I’m not sure if this has been discussed before, but to me, Ridge Nose’s son is clearly Dark Mane’s offspring.Like you say, i think he shares facial features with his mother Ridge Nose. In my opinion this darker Nk male is more similar to his mother Ridge Nose and Matimba grandfather than any of the Avoca males honestly. The blonder boy im not sure, any pics of his mother Chela? Bc i dont see any resemblance with Blondie Avoca aside from the blonde mane  (03-30-2025, 09:11 PM)Ngonya Wrote:That´s a pretty interesting take, I personally would bet my house that Chela´s is Blondie`s(03-30-2025, 06:25 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I am starting to think that Mohawk is the last, and that isn't even 100% at this point. He's not seen that much either anymore.He was posted today in a Kruger group at Facebook, but im just not sure how recent. Mane, body type (not too tall like dark mane but not as short as Mohawk and with a pretty decent bulk) and even the shape of the head with those huge nostrils that he has Some wildearth guides shared the same opinion even showing pictures of Blondie next to Chela´s son Chela´s son for me it´s almost a mix between Blondie and the brother of his grandmother ( Sizanani) About Ridge Nose son, him being pretty tall doesn´t quite mean that he can´t be Mohawk´s Let´s not forget that he is the grandson of Matimbas and his half brother and sister are anything but small for their age , even the Birmingham daugther Some months ago there was a picture of RN´s and he was quite similar to Mohawk in that picture , with his long but tilted face They are all cousins/brothers anyway but it´s really fun to talk about this
Most of the wounds are superficial and seem to be healing right.
My only concern at the moment is his vision. But I doubt he is fully blind. So I dont think there is much reason to be pessimistic based on those photos. That he was alone, fled back to his former territory and has not been seen for month now is however worrisome. (03-30-2025, 09:24 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Most of the wounds are superficial and seem to be healing right. Those wounds are very similar to those Mandevu suffered, and we know how that ended. I wish we could have seen how SA was moving in those last sightings, as Mandevu was clearly suffering some sort of neurological issues. The wound near SA's left eye is clearly infected, but his head and neck were clearly the targets of whatever attack he suffered, a lot of serious bite marks all over. I agree, it is all very concerning, for sure, add to that the length of time since he was last seen. We know that it is in them to carry on, in spite of tremendous injuries, his Brother, DM, may have suffered more, and longer, than any other lion I have ever seen, and he was still moving towards his pride, for days, until he just couldn't any longer. Same goes for Mandevu, and even the 5th Majin was able to stand up, and tried to walk. These cats never give up on themselves, it is one of the most fascinating things about them, to me. (03-30-2025, 09:22 PM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: That´s a pretty interesting take, I personally would bet my house that Chela´s is Blondie`sI dont doubt blondie being the one to sire him honestly, I just dont see the resemblance, guess we can all agree that just as mention previously by others, these Nk boys are unique looking lions, and imo the blonder boy in special. I've heard about that nostrils stuff, but i dont recall comparing it tbh. Sizanani and even his brother killed by Matimba could be a little similar to this Nk male. |
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