Coalitions of Kruger National Park

[Brahim]

Here are the 2 Mhangeni who joined Talamati. Left one is the missing one. He had a cut ear and scar on his nose he had for a while. He maybe lost early on before they even met the 2 unknown males because I can't find him with them since they went into kruger properly. Reply

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[Brahim]

Unrelated male chilling and Talamati mating Reply

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[Brahim]

Mhangeni with the 2 unrelated males. Posted 2018 but would be an older sighting. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(09-05-2024, 03:07 PM)Brahim Wrote: Unrelated male chilling and Talamati mating

These looks like more recent photos. Reply

[Tr1x24]

@Mapokser  @Brahim 

You should post some of these photos of Mhangenis and Talamati in "Majingilane/Matimba coalition lineage" threads.

Theres lack of good photos of these boys. Reply

[Mapokser]

It seems I was mistaking a Mangheni for the Talamati.

Still, what a great finding, amazing to see a coalition of 4 unrelated males having success and to see Mangheni Majingi and Talamati Matimba being part of it.

But yeah it'd be good to post the photos in the male lineage threads since it'd be easier for others interested in the Majingi and Matimba legacy to find and know about this. Reply

[Brahim]

2/3 New Transport dam males
Credit: Jaco Geldenhuys Reply

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[Ngonya]

(09-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Brahim Wrote: 2/3 New Transport dam males

boy on the left looks quite similar to the Mangheni male that u sent previously Reply

[BA0701]

(09-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Brahim Wrote: 2/3 New Transport dam males
Credit: Jaco Geldenhuys

 Are they any relation to the previous TDMs? If not, do we know where these boys came from, how old they may be? Reply

[afortich]

(09-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Brahim Wrote: 2/3 New Transport dam males
Credit: Jaco Geldenhuys

These boys look impressive. Nice pics! Reply

[kobe8jf1234]

(09-05-2024, 04:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @Mapokser  @Brahim 

You should post some of these photos of Mhangenis and Talamati in "Majingilane/Matimba coalition lineage" threads.

Theres lack of good photos of these boys.

i am confused the talamati was alive all this time ? Reply

[Mapokser]

(09-06-2024, 12:44 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(09-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Brahim Wrote: 2/3 New Transport dam males
Credit: Jaco Geldenhuys

 Are they any relation to the previous TDMs? If not, do we know where these boys came from, how old they may be?

We don't know the pride they were born in, or who their fathers are, their origin is a msytery so we were just wondering if they could have been sired by the 4 male coalition that Mangheni and Talamati were part of, based on looks ( and maybe location? )

As for age I'd think they are at least 6yo, likely older based on photos of them years ago and the current photos.

(09-06-2024, 03:39 AM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote:

(09-05-2024, 04:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @Mapokser  @Brahim 

You should post some of these photos of Mhangenis and Talamati in "Majingilane/Matimba coalition lineage" threads.

Theres lack of good photos of these boys.

i am confused the talamati was alive all this time ?

Talamati son of the Matimbas, born in 2012, yes, he was alive, maybe even is, while Mangheni is very likely dead, it wasn't said if the condition of the male with him last year was bad, so it could be Talamati or any of the other 2 unrelated males.

But if you're talking about the older Talamati male sired by N.Avocas, unless he somehow got lost in a Kruger area without roads, he seems to be a goner as only his younger brother returned to Sabi Sands and has been sighted in many months. Reply

[Brahim]

(09-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Brahim Wrote: 2/3 New Transport dam males
Credit: Jaco Geldenhuys

That boy on left is crazy similar to Mhangeni very unique look. Boy on right similar to the unrelated males. But yeah hard to know where they from without more info. Reply

[Brahim]

Osindile Mongawane today near Orpen.
Credit: Rose Reply

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[Tr1x24]

(09-06-2024, 01:44 PM)Brahim Wrote: That boy on left is crazy similar to Mhangeni very unique look. Boy on right similar to the unrelated males. But yeah hard to know where they from without more info.

This frustrates me about some Kruger lions, based of looks we kinda have idea who might sire them, but we cant never prove it.

In this case, we might be looking at Majingilanes/Matimba grandson/s, but will never know if thats the case.. Reply