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Captive Lion and Tiger weights

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https://www.si.edu/es/object/african-lion-great-cats%3Ayt_KllmkSDHa1Y
Shaka, 227 kg



Jumbe, 213 kg on right and Shaka on left
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Father Luke, 177 kg




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Shera,152 kg.

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Naba, 152 kg

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( This post was last modified: 05-17-2023, 09:41 PM by Hello )

Skip to 17:40 to hear the weights.
https://www.facebook.com/franklinparkzoo/videos/5288997764474542

Kamaia, 227 kg

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Dinari, 208 kg

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Amur ♂️ 163 kg

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♀️ Amur, 124.7 kg

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Sumatran ♀️, 90.7 kg

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https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/news/new-zoo-meet-amur-tiger-metis
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@Hello  The male amur looks very caspian like.
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(05-20-2023, 12:19 AM)Lycaon Wrote: @Hello  The male amur looks very caspian like.
Yes, he does look like caspian. I believe you are referring to the frizzy hair on his shoulders and mane of Metis. And caspians have those traits. Amur tigers under AZA and EAZA are pure amurs. Another feature that I noticed about this tiger is that he has a very long muzzle!

2 year old Metis.

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https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2018/04/30/how-spot-indianapolis-zoos-new-tiger/564110002/
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163 kg male Amur

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https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/S-F-Zoo-pulls-Tony-the-tiger-from-moat-3268817.php
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Jasiri, 220 kg

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Afro Asiatic mix. 200 kg

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https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2023/apr/17/life-mundane-but-thrissur-zoos-lone-lion-still-stays-active-2566595.html
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@Hello :

About #747: I believed that the crossing between African and Asiatic lions were from now on forbidden because the offsprings were too weak and unable to do anything but vegetating. But the specimen you showed seems to be healthy. Is it really a crossing ?
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(06-05-2023, 06:24 PM)Spalea Wrote: @Hello :

About #747: I believed that the crossing between African and Asiatic lions were from now on forbidden because the offsprings were too weak and unable to do anything but vegetating. But the specimen you showed seems to be healthy. Is it really a crossing ?

Yes, he's a hybrid. Afro-asiatics in captivity do become very bulky and large, but the smallest lion (160 kg estimate) i've seen was also an Afro-asiatic and the animal was Akash's Father Ayush. Ayush is also a hybrid. The below hybrid is also large and bulky and i've seen him personally and estimate him to be 210-220 kg. He's from Mysore zoo (India).

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Another big and well fed hybrid with a big black mane from Ranchi zoo (India)

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[video=youtube]https://https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jY69whDv-Fg[/video]
@Rishi knows more about hybrid lions.
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(06-04-2023, 12:47 PM)Hello Wrote: Afro Asiatic mix. 200 kg

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https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2023/apr/17/life-mundane-but-thrissur-zoos-lone-lion-still-stays-active-2566595.html
Akash's father. He's a small lion. The female next to him is also a hybrid. He's 17 +years old 
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https://www.newindianexpress.com/good-ne...88609.html
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@Hello :

Thank you for having answered. Thus yes, it seems some hybrids can be healthy.

But, as concerns the tendency of a general weakness of the offspring from such crossing, I have found the info which I spoke about, from the BBC: 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4101049.stm

In this first link, dated from 2004, it is mentionned that the hybrids suffered from tuberculosis, and had a low immunity rate.

The second older link (2002) relates a mysterious disease which had affected 80 crossbred lions, slowly killing them all, as of this info date only 22 hybrids still survived but in a such state of weakness they were isolated from the other lions. Because too the indian law prohibits to kill these animals:

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna14921421

May be some serious progress have been realised, because these both links explain that the crossbreds were stopped (by sterelising african male lions living with the asiatic females). Logically no one hybrids could have survived till now.
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Amur/siberian tiger named El-roi, 200 kg, 15 years old.

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https://lokalklick.eu/2020/01/31/loch-im-zahn-el-roi-bekam-besuch-vom-zahnarzt/
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222 kg lion

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https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2011/special-guest-male-lion-undergoes-mri-at-michigan-state-university
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