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Lions of Sabi Sands

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(06-07-2022, 08:12 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I said they prob WILL be territorial, by the looks of it, not that they already are.

They picked their scent because Ndhzengas still mark around northern Sabi Sabi, Selati Camp, there they where last seen with Kambulas, around 2-3 weeks ago and thats still part of their territory which they visit.

Im not predicting future, im just saying what is going on and what this means based of past examples and behaviors.

But, whatever.

You are spot on.
Previous examples of large coalitions along with current behaviour patterns shows us that this is the most likely scenario to occur.

As for the new males, they are definitely showing signs of being territorial. They have found a patch of land vacated by Ndhzengas and are making full use of it.
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One of these great coalitions from Sabi Sand from the past: the 3 Sand River male Lions



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(06-07-2022, 11:59 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(06-07-2022, 10:55 PM)Hairy tummy Wrote: Not good news for the styx cubs then?

Hard to say, many possible scenarios. 

But as for now, they didnt had any problems with new males, those males are still not territorial, so they had a window still, and if they hang around northern Sabi Sabi and Selati Camp, 
they should be safe for now, this is still fairly close to Ndhzengas, who still visit and mark that area, which should be enough to keep 2 males away from that area for now, especially as they now know they are quite outnumbered and lost 1 brother to these males, they immiditately returned back south when they caught Ndhzengas scent in northern Sabi Sabi.

Ndhzengas will definitely still chase these males if they come too close to their borders or step into their territory again.

How far out of Mala Mala did the Ndhzengas chase those guys?  How far before they would have reached another coalition's territory?  Was the beginning of that fight that close to the border?  I'm just trying to get more details.  It seems odd they'd chase him that far.  It's frustrating that we saw the start and couldn't see the "end."  I wish the rangers were allowed to cross borders in such circumstances.
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Styx pride
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( This post was last modified: 06-14-2022, 05:05 PM by Tonpa )

Random information from Elephant Plains sightings of the week
 
Sunday, 12 June 2022
Three subadult male lions resting close to Poachers Corner. (Talamati subs and Limping Tumbela)
The Talamati pride of lions and 1 Avoca male lion resting on Guarrie Central.

Distance is 2-3km


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(06-14-2022, 12:09 PM)DE_66 Wrote: How far out of Mala Mala did the Ndhzengas chase those guys?  How far before they would have reached another coalition's territory?  Was the beginning of that fight that close to the border?  I'm just trying to get more details.  It seems odd they'd chase him that far.  It's frustrating that we saw the start and couldn't see the "end."  I wish the rangers were allowed to cross borders in such circumstances.

They chased them south of Sabi Sabi, they didnt pursuit them further in Lion Sands, as that area is vacant by Ndhzengas.

After that 2 males hang around Lion Sands, and recently in Sabi Sabi, as presence of Ndhzengas there is low recently, except northern areas of Sabi Sabi around Selati Camp, which Ndhzengas still visit, where week or so ago 2 S1 males where spotted, but caught scent of Ndhzengas and immiditately return back south.

Someone posted that Ndhzengas where seen with Styx recently, where was that, i cant see gruop links?

Styx's where recently seen around Selati Camp, which Ndhzengas still patrol.
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Does anyone recognize this lion?   He’s reportedly 1/2 unknown male lions seen in Singita/WS this afternoon

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(06-14-2022, 06:40 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Does anyone recognize this lion?   He’s reportedly 1/2 unknown male lions seen in Singita/WS this afternoon

Any better photos?
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(06-14-2022, 07:11 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(06-14-2022, 06:40 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Does anyone recognize this lion?   He’s reportedly 1/2 unknown male lions seen in Singita/WS this afternoon

Any better photos?

Not yet.   I know a few trying to get more pictures and more clarity.  This was all i was sent
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(06-14-2022, 06:40 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Does anyone recognize this lion?   He’s reportedly 1/2 unknown male lions seen in Singita/WS this afternoon
That could be Junior Othawa!!
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Honestly, with the quality of that photo it could be half of the male lions in the reserve.
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Could be the 3rd S1 male?
2 BDM?
It's believed they are from Northern Kruger
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(06-14-2022, 05:20 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(06-14-2022, 12:09 PM)DE_66 Wrote: How far out of Mala Mala did the Ndhzengas chase those guys?  How far before they would have reached another coalition's territory?  Was the beginning of that fight that close to the border?  I'm just trying to get more details.  It seems odd they'd chase him that far.  It's frustrating that we saw the start and couldn't see the "end."  I wish the rangers were allowed to cross borders in such circumstances.

They chased them south of Sabi Sabi, they didnt pursuit them further in Lion Sands, as that area is vacant by Ndhzengas.

After that 2 males hang around Lion Sands, and recently in Sabi Sabi, as presence of Ndhzengas there is low recently, except northern areas of Sabi Sabi around Selati Camp, which Ndhzengas still visit, where week or so ago 2 S1 males where spotted, but caught scent of Ndhzengas and immiditately return back south.

Someone posted that Ndhzengas where seen with Styx recently, where was that, i cant see gruop links?

Styx's where recently seen around Selati Camp, which Ndhzengas still patrol.


So, they killed the third male in Sabi Sabi?  Or we don't know that he's dead for sure?  Or am I mixing up confrontations?

I thought you guys were talking about this:
BREAKING: Unknown LION Coalition Draws First Blood - YouTube



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(06-15-2022, 10:18 AM)DE_66 Wrote: So, they killed the third male in Sabi Sabi?  Or we don't know that he's dead for sure?  Or am I mixing up confrontations?


Nobody know for certain what the outcome was with the 3rd S1 male. He hasn't been spotted since. No body, nothing.
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