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The Tumbela Coalition
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I think also pictures disappear if they are uploaded directly from Facebook. Facebook changes the image link after some time and that results in older posts disappearing here. There are some in this thread
 (07-15-2021, 03:35 AM)This NCAT33 Wrote:(07-14-2021, 11:46 PM)BA0701 Wrote:Also try logging in to the site(07-14-2021, 09:07 PM)Salman B.A.M Wrote:(07-13-2021, 12:35 AM)Potato Wrote: This has to be the explanation. I’ve noticed some images I had seen before are now gone with that copyright notice.
According to guides,,,,the Othowa cubs sex is now known.
As we already knew Sassy has 3 Females ; and now Auntie (jrMom) has 2 males, 1 female. I think this is a very nice spread. 4 females are great for the future viability and two males are better than a single male…let’s hope the nest for their security in future  (07-15-2021, 08:17 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: According to guides,,,,the Othowa cubs sex is now known. Thats great, lets hope Tumbela males will be strong enough to defend those cubs, also that 2 old Othawa females will live for long as possible.  (07-15-2021, 08:17 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: According to guides,,,,the Othowa cubs sex is now known. I really hope none of these lionesses have forgotten Gingerella. That beautiful girl needs to return to them one day. Given her age, she's just a year away from breeding age.
Limper and Skorro Jr. on a patrol this morning by Diffmarimane :
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Can someone tell me about the tumbelas nomadic life, i heard that they were having a hard time.
(07-16-2021, 01:42 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Limper and Skorro Jr. on a patrol this morning by Diffmarimane : I’m not sure how much information there is regarding actual sightings of them in KNP….but 5 original brothers went in together and only 3 came out and they were in dismal condition. One thing it did teach them was how to navigate through territories staying low…they were able to make it all the way to western sector with very little detection especially from the dangerous males in the territories they traversed.  (07-16-2021, 09:19 PM)Mangw Wrote: Can someone tell me about the tumbelas nomadic life, i heard that they were having a hard time. Left their natal Nharu pride in Manyeleti as a group of 5, wandering into Kruger, reappeared as 3 in western sector of Sabi Sands keeping very low profile, which actally got them their coalition name. Not very confident, very old Hairy Belly actually was able to succesfully contest a giraffe kill (against one of them iirc). I don't think anyone really knows any details of their time in Kruger, beyond that they evidently struggled, lost 2 and didn't reappear in great condition, so it must be pretty rought for them. To what extent due to competition (inter and intraspecies) and to what extent due to their hunting prowess or lack of, we don't know, I don't think we saw them hunting buffalos in western sector, their fathers were great buffalo hunters, they might or mgiht not be, being able to take down a buffalo and feed on it is great boon for young nomadic males, so it is quite likely they didn't manage to do that often considering their state when they reappeared (either not succeeding in getting kills often or in defending the kill afterwards). (07-16-2021, 09:19 PM)Mangw Wrote: Can someone tell me about the tumbelas nomadic life, i heard that they were having a hard time. When they left Manyeleti, they appeared as 5 in northern Sabi Sands, then moved east into Mulwati Concession, there where also seen as 5.. Few months later 2 of them appeared again in Manyeleti and had a scrap with Mbiris and their 6th brother, then again disapeared and appeared few month later as 3 in western sector.. No info where they lost 2 brothers, in fact, there is possiblity they are still alive somewhere. 
Could be. When food is scarce. There no longer is much of an advantage in numbers so a split up makes sense.
I wonder how important the skills in hunting Buffelos or other slow big game is for nomadic male lions? Seeing they are slower and less agile than the lionesses other game may be to difficult to bring down reliably. So I can imagine them being their primary foodsource. Could a lack of skill in bringing them down mean the difference between success and failure?  (07-16-2021, 11:35 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Could a lack of skill in bringing them down mean the difference between success and failure?Of course it can make diference between strong, healty coalition with big numbers and undersized, aditionally weakned by the hunger and with depleated numbers coalition. In male lion world lack of hunting skills can quickly lead to domino efect leading to death.
Well, the advantage of male lions is their power - they can use the strenght to overpower prey that can't outrun them or they can use it to force themselves onto kills somebody weaker made (or they can get lucky and find an unclaimed source of food, more experience indidviduals will use changes in vultures behaviour to find those). Succesful young nomadic coalitions are often linked to more or less following buffalo herds and living mostly off them, Ndzhengas for example. It is by no means the only way how to survive and fed yourself as a nomadic male lion, but pretty straightforward - with the drawback of buffalo being a dangerous prey and the coalition can lose members or they can gain long lasting health issues (tuberculosis included, if they are unlucky). But the current Othawa sub-adults, although still with their sister for sure playing a role in the hunts, managed to fed themselves well by giraffes and wildebeest (iirc) instead. Lions are opportunist, it is just buffalos provide a certainty of prey being present due to size of their herds (although lone animals are preferable targets) and incidently it is a prey requiring strenghts, male lions have - power to put them down.
There is a video somewhere of Skorro running into a herd of buffalo head on and singlehandidly killing one. I don't think this generation, Tumbelas, are that proficient buffalo hunter, but probably nobody is.
I’ve been curious and wondering why we see so little of scar. There are snippets of all the lions there yet he’s hardly ever captured. I’m not sure how purposeful that is but it just makes me more and more concerned for him. A friend sent me the following regarding Scar:
“Spoke with a Guide yesterday regarding the Tumbela males. Skorro Jr and limper doing good but the 3rd not looking great. Could be feline aids or TB. No matter how much he eats he is still thin and doesn't look good.” The guides have seen lions do some very miraculous recoveries and will never count a lion out, but I’ve been concerned about him for a while and was hoping he could turn the corner into improving. It is becoming less and less likely. Which makes me sad. I’m very fond of the Thanda Impi bloodline and especially these gifts since I’ve seen them have such a torrid time. Let’s hope for the best
Out of curiosity, anybody know why reserves stopped treating Bovine TB? From what I can find they were treating it around 8 years ago
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