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The Tumbela Coalition

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(07-17-2021, 02:22 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Out of curiosity, anybody know why reserves stopped treating Bovine TB? From what I can find they were treating it around 8 years ago

How do you meant treat TB? You mean treat infected lions or disease as a whole before they reach lions?

As far as I know, there is no treatment for TB in cattle, they usually kill all the infected cattle to prevent spreading TB, so preventing something like that in Kruger is impossible, because disease spread out too much.. 

As for lions treatment idk, i think treatment is very long, prob weeks/months on antibiotics or something, which prob is not sustainable with so many infected lions.. And vaccine for prevention is still not discovered i think.
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Its nature. The weak perish to make the rest stronger.
Its not like there is a male lion shortage.
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Bovine TB was transferred to the park from domestic cattle to buffalo, it's not a natural disease in the area
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True, but even then I think it sets a bad president. 
The poor reserves are getting enough crap as it is from people complaining they didn't safe their darling lions.
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(07-17-2021, 03:35 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Its nature. The weak perish to make the rest stronger.
Its not like there is a male lion shortage.

That's the problem with disease, and injury for that matter, it doesn't discriminate, it takes the weak and the strong. The list of incredibly powerful animals being taken by disease or injury is endless.
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I need to dig up these photos but there were a few young males seen in the northern sector a while ago. As usual the WildEarth guides messed up IDs and called them Talamati males but looking back I’m almost certain they aren’t…

One was running along a fence line, and later seen with the Ximhungwe female (need to find this photo).

Another was with DM at a hippo:

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I wonder if any of these could have been the missing Nharu males that got separated during the nomadic stage? Probably not, but it’s interesting to see these very blonde young males in that area. 

They’re all gone now so we’ll never know what happened to them.
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Woah, what date did this occur? 

Scar with Othawa cub 
photo by Diffmarimane 


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Hippo meal? Probably around the end of last year. Then beginning of the year there was a young male running around… he looked around 3-4 years old but could just be underdeveloped like the Tumbelas were.
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Dominant tumbela by Bradley Sheldon 


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(07-20-2021, 02:54 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Dominant tumbela by Bradley Sheldon 


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He is filling out so well. I have been wondering lately, if any of the Othawa cubs might have been sired by HB, if they might be a mix of the new and the old.
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Not likely. HB was pretty much a walking corpse at the time their conception. And 5he Othawas stopped having any interest in him long before that.
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(07-20-2021, 02:54 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Dominant tumbela by Bradley Sheldon 


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Wow he is looking really in good shape, his mane is fill up
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(07-20-2021, 07:02 PM)BA0701 Wrote: He is filling out so well. I have been wondering lately, if any of the Othawa cubs might have been sired by HB, if they might be a mix of the new and the old.

Towards the end of his reign, HB was only seen mating with infertile Aunty Othawa. Cubs are too young to be sired by HB.
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(07-20-2021, 08:09 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-20-2021, 07:02 PM)BA0701 Wrote: He is filling out so well. I have been wondering lately, if any of the Othawa cubs might have been sired by HB, if they might be a mix of the new and the old.

Towards the end of his reign, HB was only seen mating with infertile Aunty Othawa. Cubs are too young to be sired by HB.

Thank you for that my friend.
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