Lion and Tiger Fight Interaction in Zoo, Circus or Any Other Captive Places

[Shadow]

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/ Reply

[Pckts]

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own. Reply

[Shadow]

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed. Reply

[Spalea]

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

We cannot compare a broken leg with a face pawed... A broken leg in wild implies a death sentence, especially for a solitary animal like the tiger. As concerns the "faces pawed with a deep cut" for lions and tiger in wild, thank to the thread titled "Battles scarred" ( https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-battle-scarred ), we know they are very common events during the felid's life. Reply

[Pckts]

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

Fractures can heal on their on and do so often, compound fractures are another story.  Sometimes animals will sustain limps and sometimes no . Depends on how the bone heals. Reply

[Shadow]

(07-29-2020, 02:39 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

Fractures can heal on their on and do so often, compound fractures are another story.  Sometimes animals will sustain limps and sometimes no . Depends on how the bone heals.

When owner say, that special medical team was needed, it´s quite clear for me. This tiger was lucky to be captive. Bones don´t heal instantly and prey animals won´t pity injured predator by starting to walk so that they can be catched. You are free to have your opinion, I don´t mind. Reply

[Pckts]

(07-29-2020, 02:46 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 02:39 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

Fractures can heal on their on and do so often, compound fractures are another story.  Sometimes animals will sustain limps and sometimes no . Depends on how the bone heals.

When owner say, that special medical team was needed, it´s quite clear for me. This tiger was lucky to be captive. Bones don´t heal instantly and prey animals won´t pity injured predator by starting to walk so that they can be catched. You are free to have your opinion, I don´t mind.

And the owner shows an antibiotic being shot to avoid infection and sedating the lion to stitch it up.
Tigers have survived in the wild missing a leg, they've broken bones and delt with infections and disease. No one said anything about a bone healing instantly but to think it's a death sentence all the time is not true. Animals can find a way and have done so before.

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[tigerluver]

(07-29-2020, 02:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 02:46 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 02:39 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

Fractures can heal on their on and do so often, compound fractures are another story.  Sometimes animals will sustain limps and sometimes no . Depends on how the bone heals.

When owner say, that special medical team was needed, it´s quite clear for me. This tiger was lucky to be captive. Bones don´t heal instantly and prey animals won´t pity injured predator by starting to walk so that they can be catched. You are free to have your opinion, I don´t mind.

And the owner shows an antibiotic being shot to avoid infection and sedating the lion to stitch it up.
Tigers have survived in the wild missing a leg, they've broken bones and delt with infections and disease. No one said anything about a bone healing instantly but to think it's a death sentence all the time is not true. Animals can find a way and have done so before.

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From the paleaontologic record, but here's an example of a healed bone after what was likely a brutal fracture (at the arrow).:

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The owner was A. angustidens (the largest mammalian carnivore on record). Solitary animals can have amazing healing capabilities indeed. Of course, not all will make it and the process certainly is not pain free. Reply

[Rishi]

(06-02-2020, 10:12 PM)Sanju Wrote:

This one looks like something you'd see in nature!.. Reply

[Rage2277]

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

 it didn't require surgery that means it's arm wasn't actually broken and it doesn't look that way either..you'd think he would show footage of something so serious seems more like the lion had a claw hooked in the tiger's lower arm bruising the muscle,the healed wounds on the tiger's arm are indicative of claw marks not bite marks..if this was a recent incident and it's arm was indeed broken it wouldn't heal that fast even with medical attention Reply

[Shadow]

(07-29-2020, 02:15 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:57 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:51 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 01:41 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(07-25-2020, 05:21 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote: A fight between both cats happened in Dubai by an owner of exotic animals. The lion received a huge clawing in its face and the tiger had one of its leg mauled, both received medical treatment. Reading what the owner said in TikTok both cats usually play with each other since they have been together since birth but this time it was different and something triggered in them a sense of aggression that led to the fight.

Pity that so serious fight in captivity. Also clearly shows how close call these two biggest cats are when they really go for it. Some people like to argue which one is stronger, obviously both are strong enough to kill each others.

 Still even though there are always cuts, when they fight, broken leg is brutal. In wild it would be same as dead tiger. Anyway hopefully these two won´t be kept together anymore :/

They're both youngsters and the Tiger didn't require surgery so I'm sure both could heal on their own.

I don´t believe that broken leg is ok without help. In wild it would be death sentence. In captivity it of course can be healed.

 it didn't require surgery that means it's arm wasn't actually broken and it doesn't look that way either..you'd think he would show footage of something so serious seems more like the lion had a claw hooked in the tiger's lower arm bruising the muscle,the healed wounds on the tiger's arm are indicative of claw marks not bite marks..if this was a recent incident and it's arm was indeed broken it wouldn't heal that fast even with medical attention

Original video from the owner says clearly, that leg was broken. In wild it means death for a predator like a tiger. If it would have been something else, then for sure owner would have mentioned it. In cases like this there are always so much speculations, but when owner says frankly, that broken leg and medical treatment was needed, it´s what I believe. Surgery isn´t needed to treat broken bones always, but medical treatment is.

Anyway I said what I thought, I really don´t mind or care what others think unless there is some new information from original source. If the owner say, that it wasn´t broken, it´s a different thing, but I haven´t seen him doing it. I know that discussion forums are full of "information" after every tiger and lion interaction and it´s one big reason why I avoid reading all that speculation. I found this one interesting because it show clearly how close call these two big cats are. This case, in my books, was one in which lion prevailed over tiger, no matter what someone else thinks. I said it, because it´s how I see it. If someone else feels differently, I don´t care, free world. As long as discussion stay civilized.

So I disagree with you in it, that this tiger wouldn´t have had a really serious injury from this fight. Other injuries seemed to be something these cats can survive in wild, but broken leg gives a very bad prognosis.

I don´t have time or interest to debate, winner of some fight between a tiger and lion isn´t that important for me. Sometimes tiger wins, sometimes lion if they fight, it´s just natural. I wrote what I wrote to see if wildfact community has "grown up" with time so, that one day also tigers and lions could be discussed without "all hell breaking loose" and of course because it is how I see this. I have to say, that so far looking good, no super heated up comments. Both of these big cats demand respect, if one lion loses here or tiger there, both are still magnificent. Reply

[Sanju]

(07-29-2020, 11:38 AM)Rishi Wrote: This one looks like something you'd see in nature!..

possibly.. Reply

[johnny rex]

(07-29-2020, 04:43 PM)Shadow Wrote: I don´t have time or interest to debate, winner of some fight between a tiger and lion isn´t that important for me. Sometimes tiger wins, sometimes lion if they fight, it´s just natural. I wrote what I wrote to see if wildfact community has "grown up" with time so, that one day also tigers and lions could be discussed without "all hell breaking loose" and of course because it is how I see this. I have to say, that so far looking good, no super heated up comments. Both of these big cats demand respect, if one lion loses here or tiger there, both are still magnificent.

It really depends on the size and the aggression of the animal, just like in the discussion whether a big cat can kill a croc and vice versa or whether a bear can kill a big cat and vice versa. Statements such as "a big cat will kill a big croc most of the time on land", "a bear will kill a tiger or a lion a hundred percent" or "lions are much more superior than tigers", etc. are nothing more than opinions and what makes it worse is that most people tend to utter such statements as absolute statements. Everytime I saw such statements I tend to take such statements with a pinch of salt and not seriously, sometimes after read such statements I just shake my head and giggled. To be honest, nowadays I saw those kind of discussions (i.e. animal fights) as childish  Reply

[sanjay]

Again, new video of the same Duo. This time I think tiger has edge. And it was more serious.

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[Spalea]

@sanjay :

About #164: one time the lion wins (Dubai, more serious by far), an other time it's the tiger... As long as they will be fenced in the same area, such fights or skirmishs will happen. Reply