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(03-11-2024, 12:46 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Could be, but the one thing that we do know is that it is almost always the males who drive them out. Who made the decision that it was time? Your guess is as good as mine on that one.
I don't think a "decision" is made to push the young males out from the coalition or the pride. As the young males start demanding the respect of an adult, the adults start treating them as adults which kind of weakens the bond over time. The males especially will start seeing the actions of their sons as a challenge when they stop behaving like submissive subadults, at some point independence becomes the more favorable option compared to constantly being pushed around by the males and slapped around by the females who are busy with the next generation of litters. For young males that are confident in themselves, that point of when independence becomes the better option comes a lot sooner compared to let's a lone young male who will stick around as long as possible knowing what awaits him out there.
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03-11-2024, 05:27 AM( This post was last modified: 03-11-2024, 05:30 AM by BA0701 )
(03-11-2024, 05:26 AM)sik94 Wrote:
(03-11-2024, 12:46 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Could be, but the one thing that we do know is that it is almost always the males who drive them out. Who made the decision that it was time? Your guess is as good as mine on that one.
I don't think a "decision" is made to push the young males out from the coalition or the pride. As the young males start demanding the respect of an adult, the adults start treating them as adults which kind of weakens the bond over time. The males especially will start seeing the actions of their sons as a challenge when they stop behaving like submissive subadults, at some point independence becomes the more favorable option compared to constantly being pushed around by the males and slapped around by the females who are busy with the next generation of litters. For young males that are confident in themselves, that point of when independence becomes the better option comes a lot sooner compared to let's a lone young male who will stick around as long as possible knowing what awaits him out there.
Did you read the comment I was responding to? That comment was more of my injecting some humor, than to be taken seriously.
Btw, I agree with you, on all of it, I don't think there is a decision made either, if in fact lions are even capable of making a decision.
(03-11-2024, 05:55 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Better sighting of the White Birmingham male.
Wow, he is looking absolutely incredible!
Any update on the two brothers of this good looking guy??
I've seen several people state that they're with him but haven't been able to find any photos/videos of them yet. I'm on the lookout though, will share if I come across anything.
The two Mongawane male lions (the Torchwood Male, back, & Birmingham Male) seen on the H7 in the Kruger National Park today - Photos by Kim Buckley Wright
Unfortunate news on the Avoca Pride. From the original six (6) cubs only two (2) now remain, from what I've read it seems that the pride has only been making small kills lately and those kills that are made have in turn been taken by the three (3) Black Dam males, leaving not enough for the females to generate a sufficient amount of milk for the cubs.
*video is from when the five remaining cubs were all alive*
03-14-2024, 11:11 PM( This post was last modified: 03-14-2024, 11:12 PM by afortich )
(03-12-2024, 06:12 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: The two Mongawane male lions (the Torchwood Male, back, & Birmingham Male) seen on the H7 in the Kruger National Park today - Photos by Kim Buckley Wright
Wow, so happy to see these guys after so long. They look great!!
BYM's mane at the top is more bushy now. Thank you for the pics bud!!
