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(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
07-30-2018, 11:45 AM( This post was last modified: 07-30-2018, 11:45 AM by peter )
(07-30-2018, 08:37 AM)paul cooper Wrote:
(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
Others asked him a year ago. The owner told Amnon he isn't interested in publicity. My guess is you'll understand.
(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
Others asked him a year ago. The owner told Amnon he isn't interested in publicity. My guess is you'll understand.
Ahh, i see when amnon said he has good relations with the owner, and he wants to respect him and his privacy at his zoo. But we thought it was weird for a guy (the zoo owner) to call tigers villains and such, especially only because one or two tigers did something bad. I guess he was just really bias as amnon pointed out already.
(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
Others asked him a year ago. The owner told Amnon he isn't interested in publicity. My guess is you'll understand.
Thank You Peter
paul cooper: why do you need to know? what exactly do you want to know?
(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
Others asked him a year ago. The owner told Amnon he isn't interested in publicity. My guess is you'll understand.
Thank You Peter
paul cooper: why do you need to know? what exactly do you want to know?
What zoo this is. We were doubting that a guy would be calling tigers villains.
(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
Others asked him a year ago. The owner told Amnon he isn't interested in publicity. My guess is you'll understand.
Ahh, i see when amnon said he has good relations with the owner, and he wants to respect him and his privacy at his zoo. But we thought it was weird for a guy (the zoo owner) to call tigers villains and such, especially only because one or two tigers did something bad. I guess he was just really bias as amnon pointed out already.
Yes, I think he is biased...or perhaps he simply doesnt like the typical mentality of tigers (who are often said to be sly and insidious (in contrast to lions). I dont know any details, for example I dont now if he was attacked. Anyway, as far as I know he treats his tigers well.
07-31-2018, 10:45 PM( This post was last modified: 07-31-2018, 10:48 PM by Amnon242 )
(07-31-2018, 10:40 PM)paul cooper Wrote:
(07-31-2018, 08:57 PM)Amnon242 Wrote:
(07-30-2018, 11:45 AM)peter Wrote:
(07-30-2018, 08:37 AM)paul cooper Wrote:
(07-19-2017, 10:20 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: East african lions. Father, mother, son
BTW I talked with the owner of this private zoo (20+ years of experience with around 50 lions and 20 tigers). He is huge lion lover and he dislikes tigers (he is going to cancel his amur tiger program...he is also going to keep his white tigers beacuse they are attractive and he needs visitors). He says that according to his opinion (captive) amur tigers are the biggest, while bengal and south african lions are about the same size (he was in India and especially in Africa many times). I asked him who would win in a fight and he said, that majority of people in the know prefer one one them but according to him it depends strictly on the individual. His felids are in good condition and have long life (one lion was 24 yo when he died) and this zoo is extremely successfull in breeding. Its beacuse quiet environment (felids have a lot of privacy) and proper food (usually veal). In many zoos felids have inapropriate diet (chicken, rabbits...) and therefore have tendencies to obesity.
Hey amnon, what zoo is this where you talked to this guy? Me and starfox are wondering.
Others asked him a year ago. The owner told Amnon he isn't interested in publicity. My guess is you'll understand.
Thank You Peter
paul cooper: why do you need to know? what exactly do you want to know?
What zoo this is. We were doubting that a guy would be calling tigers villains.
So you want to ask him by email? And what do you want to say - you think that I fabulated a story about a guy who doesnt like tigers?
I know but, that isnt particularly true about tigers. But i trust you tho, i dont think you made that up. It also looks like you talked to other people about tigers too. You know how the autist is like lol. Can you at least give us a name of the person?
(08-01-2018, 04:56 AM)paul cooper Wrote: I know but, that isnt particularly true about tigers. But i trust you tho, i dont think you made that up. It also looks like you talked to other people about tigers too. You know how the autist is like lol. Can you at least give us a name of the person?
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