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Wilful destruction - a gallery of shame

Netherlands peter Offline
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( This post was last modified: 12-28-2016, 09:14 PM by peter )

This forum is about the natural world, which is quickly disappearing nearly everywhere. Our aim is to provide those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea a voice, so that they can be heard. 

The destruction of the natural world is a result of different factors. Most unfortunately, all are strongly related to humans. The most important of these is the growth of the population. The 7 billion plus need room to live, leaving less and less for others. Another factor is the system we use to survive. It produces what is needed, but it also produces a lot of waste. All of those in the know agree human activity is the reason for climate change. The planet is warming up real fast.

Although there is growing awareness about the consequences of human activity, the commitment to implement a number of fundamental changes isn't there yet. In countries where there is some kind of commitment, the follow-up often is lacking. I'm not saying poachers can do what they want, but it's quite close in many countries. One reason is politicians often are involved. 

Poaching is related to money, but some types of destruction are not. 

In Russia in particular, there is growing concern about the attitude of some young people. A man living in southeastern Russia recently said he was able to cope with bears and tigers to a degree. He was, however, concerned about some people he had never seen before. Many of them have expensive cars and rifles. The best of the best. At night, they drive in wild country and shoot at everything that moves. The victims are put in a van, whereas the killer car continues it deadly work. When it's stopped by police or by patrolling rangers, it's difficult to charge them. The reason is there are no dead animals in the killer car. When the van with dead animals is stopped, they say they found the animals on the road. It's not easy to prove there was planning and cooperation.

It was seen before in India after Independence (same in many other former colonies), but in those days civilians didn't have the destructive rifles seen today.

The brutal violence used against wild animals is getting worse. I read reports about bears willfully shot or blasted to bits and I also remember a report about a bear willfully mauled by young people with a large car. Yesterday, I found this report about a large brown bear hit by a car. Those present encouraged each other. The bear was killed:
       
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/anim...6988ef1487

It's difficult to understand why people do this.

This thread is about willfull destruction of wild country and wild animals. I thought about it for some time. At first, I decided against it. After reading ever more reports, I concluded we have no option but to report on it. 

Anyone with reliable information about (seemingly) pointless destruction is invited to post it here. I hope the thread will be limited in size, but I could be very wrong.
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India sanjay Offline
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Very good topic peter, I was thinking of starting one. Seeing these incident my heart feel why I am human? An act of shameful cruelty. Recently, I am seeing lot of horrific videos these days.
I recently seen a video posted by PETA, in which they show how much cruelty is done by people on Alligator, crocodile and caiman to skin them Alive for Leather industries. After seeing this video, I have decided I will not buy any leather product in my life.

This is barbaric. Absolutely heart-wrenching. No wonder the world we live in, is F---ed up.
For god's sake stop using products made of animal skins
Graphic footage, not for the faint-hearted.

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I remember myself posting a video about a group of Russian men putting a firecracker in a piece of meat, in which a female polar bear ate. I posted it when I first joined a year ago. Guess one can easily predict what happened next.

I almost put a fist into my monitor watching that happen to my favorite animal, the animal that I valued and favorited. That put a serious dent into my mental state.
"We are all programmed by modern society into narcissism and pessimism, unlike our earlier relatives."

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Personally, for me that i love animals, are very hard to see, and i avoid them. These videos are horrible, totally out of any logic; is barbaric.

I warn you that it's very hard to see.




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India Rishi Offline
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@peter @stoja9 @Betty On second thought... poaching, farms, canned hunts & other forms of animal cruelty could be posted here, instead of gallery of captivity.

This thread has potential. & it's a topic that should draw more attention.
"Everything not saved will be lost."

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Good idea.

You can post copies of videos that resulted in commotion in the thread 'A Gallery of Captivity'.

Maybe you shouldn't post copies but the originals, as they had a devastating effect on the thread 'A Gallery Of Captivity'. Talk to Sanjay about moving these videos and the responses to this thread. Tell him I agree.
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United States stoja9 Offline
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Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

This thread actually exists here? Wow. I might have to seriously re-think participating or visiting WildFact anymore.  Confused
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United States Betty Offline
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(01-19-2018, 02:27 PM)Rishi Wrote: @peter @stoja9 @Betty On second thought... poaching, farms, canned hunts & other forms of animal cruelty could be posted here, instead of gallery of captivity.

This thread has potential. & it's a topic that should draw more attention.

Good idea, I'll post an image of the circus on this thread in the future.
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United States Betty Offline
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circus

Siberian tiger and African lion, followed by fighting.


*This image is copyright of its original author
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(01-25-2018, 10:15 PM)Betty Wrote: circus

Siberian tiger and African lion, followed by fighting.


*This image is copyright of its original author

Tiny lion.
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(01-25-2018, 10:24 PM)chaos Wrote:
(01-25-2018, 10:15 PM)Betty Wrote: circus

Siberian tiger and African lion, followed by fighting.


*This image is copyright of its original author

Tiny lion.
Huge tiger.
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United States JeffersonBur Offline
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How disgusting to make the animals fight like that. I haven't seen this video but I imagine it was brutal. Makes me sick.
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