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A short video of the hulk Rajaram aka Kingfisher and Mahavir Bachhi in andkua area of Mukki. Filmed on 17th Oct 2015.





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Tiger feeding on a dead tiger at Bandhavgarh NP.
This is the first time Ive seen such behaviour, is this kind of behaviour is been observed before.
Any more info is much appreciated.





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Lt.-Col. J. Stevenson-Hamilton ('Wild Life In South Africa', first published in 1947 - I have the Panther Edition of 1957) reported about cannibalism:

" ... It is regrettable to have to name ... the lion a cannibal, but unfortunately it is the case that he is so, and a confirmed one at that. I believe it to be a trait of most of the cat tribe; but for a long time I thought it was only sporadic, perhaps impelled by sexual sadistic motives. Numberless cases, however, have clearly shown that cannibalism is no individual freak, but a confirmed habit of the species ... "  (pp. 165).

Wild predators, and big cats in particular, often eat what they kill. And there's no question they kill each other at times. Here's Stevenson-Hamilton again:

" ... Adult males, in their duels, sometimes kill each other, but less frequently than might be supposed; it seems as though they use their claws rather than their teeth against one another. In fact, a fight between lionesses, though less frequent, is, when it occurs, apparently more serious, Maimed individuals have been shot which had been badly injured by bites as well as claw wounds, and one found dead had been almost torn to pieces: the neck and back broken, and the skin rent into ribands. Possibly she had been mauled by several opponents. Between January and June of one year, in a single section of the Park, three lions and seven lionesses were found killed by their mates ... " (pp. 156).

The observation of Stevenson-Hamilton has been confirmed many times. Read the threads started by Majingilane. 

In tigers, it's not much different. In the JBNHS, I found many letters of hunters who reported about cannibalism in British India. One was posted in the extinction thread. The writer was taken to the scene of a fight by villagers. The male who lost the fight was partly eaten by the other. R.C. Morris reported about cannibalism in southern India more than once. Cannabalism in leopards also wasn't uncommon in those days.   

Brown bears, by the way, are not that different in this respect. A year ago, I saw a documentary on a German channel. The filmer heard two bears fight during the night. Next morning, he found a large male brown bear close to his tent. He was eaten by other bears. I know of another case, also in Alaska.
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(09-20-2016, 05:55 PM)peter Wrote: Lt.-Col. J. Stevenson-Hamilton ('Wild Life In South Africa', first published in 1947 - I have the Panther Edition of 1957) reported about cannibalism:

" ... It is regrettable to have to name ... the lion a cannibal, but unfortunately it is the case that he is so, and a confirmed one at that. I believe it to be a trait of most of the cat tribe; but for a long time I thought it was only sporadic, perhaps impelled by sexual sadistic motives. Numberless cases, however, have clearly shown that cannibalism is no individual freak, but a confirmed habit of the species ... "  (pp. 165).

Wild predators, and big cats in particular, often eat what they kill. And there's no question they kill each other at times. Here's Stevenson-Hamilton again:

" ... Adult males, in their duels, sometimes kill each other, but less frequently than might be supposed; it seems as though they use their claws rather than their teeth against one another. In fact, a fight between lionesses, though less frequent, is, when it occurs, apparently more serious, Maimed individuals have been shot which had been badly injured by bites as well as claw wounds, and one found dead had been almost torn to pieces: the neck and back broken, and the skin rent into ribands. Possibly she had been mauled by several opponents. Between January and June of one year, in a single section of the Park, three lions and seven lionesses were found killed by their mates ... " (pp. 156).

The observation of Stevenson-Hamilton has been confirmed many times. Read the threads started by Majingilane. 

In tigers, it's not much different. In the JBNHS, I found many letters of hunters who reported about cannibalism in British India. One was posted in the extinction thread. The writer was taken to the scene of a fight by villagers. The male who lost the fight was partly eaten by the other. R.C. Morris reported about cannibalism in southern India more than once. Cannabalism in leopards also wasn't uncommon in those days.   

Brown bears, by the way, are not that different in this respect. A year ago, I saw a documentary on a German channel. The filmer heard two bears fight during the night. Next morning, he found a large male brown bear close to his tent. He was eaten by other bears. I know of another case, also in Alaska.




Thanks Peter, it was very insightful.
I think the above picture is a vital piece of evidence proving cannibalism among tigers.
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(09-18-2016, 09:05 AM)Pckts Wrote: Try to add info on the tiger @Diamir2

For instance: age, location, lineage etc. 
I also think just wild tigers is better but I don't know if that's required.

This is a famous tiger Ustin.
 he is 4 years old
http://www.ifaw.org/united-states/news/u...ion-center
http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/others/...s-in-wild/
http://programmes.putin.kremlin.ru/en/tiger/news/25084
https://russia.wcs.org/en-us/About-Us/Ne...-WILD.aspx
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Good info and thanks, Diamir. Here's a few more questions. 

- Would you be able to find a bit more about the length and weight of the young Amur tigers released last year? Ustin most probably was measured again when it was decided to move him to Rostov.

- One tigress avoided an encounter with a big bear following his nose, but tiger Boris, who faced a youngish bear interested in his wild boar, did not. We know Boris killed his opponent, but there were no details. Has anything been published about the encounter?

- Some time ago, a paper was published about the Aldrich-footsnare used to capture Amur tigers. Was the method used to capture tigers changed after the paper was published? 

See what you can find out and thanks in advance.
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(09-20-2016, 02:25 PM)Apollo Wrote: Tiger feeding on a dead tiger at Bandhavgarh NP.
This is the first time Ive seen such behaviour, is this kind of behaviour is been observed before.
Any more info is much appreciated.





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That's the Late Kankati (a.k.a Vijaya) who killed Chorbehra Tigress Langdi in 2011 after a brutal territorial fight & ate her. She'd sustained the eye injury in that fight. Another recorded instance is of Tigress T-2 of Panna who ended up eating her lone cub after it was killed by a Male in 2010.
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Thanks  @Vijay Rajan  for the info on Cannibalism. Such rare behaviours cannot be known without the contributions from wildlife photographers like you.



Cameratrap video of wild Amur tiger from 2015




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Thank you @Vijay Rajan 
Actually, if you see the information provided by vijay then you will realize he is not only photographer but also gather data and information about individuals. His interest is beyond the photography and there are very few photographers who does the same.
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[attachment=605 Wrote: sanjay pid='26885' dateline='1474476104']Thank you @Vijay Rajan 
Actually, if you see the information provided by vijay then you will realize  he is not only photographer but also gather data and information about individuals. His interest is beyond the photography and there are very few photographers who does the same.

Thank you @sanjay & @Apollo for your kind words.

Here's the record of a Tigress (T-2) of Panna eating her own (9 month old) cub after it was killed by a rival male.

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Interesting @Vijay Rajan !

How often would you say this behavior is for tigresses? It really shows that the tiger still is a "beast" at its core.
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(09-22-2016, 08:39 AM)tigerluver Wrote: Interesting @Vijay Rajan !

How often would you say this behavior is for tigresses? It really shows that the tiger still is a "beast" at its core.


@tigerluver, this behavior could perhaps be considered as rare solely due to lack of extensive study/documentation. Thanks !
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(09-21-2016, 09:57 PM)Apollo Wrote: Thanks  @Vijay Rajan  for the info on Cannibalism. Such rare behaviours cannot be known without the contributions from wildlife photographers like you.



Cameratrap video of wild Amur tiger from 2015





Great footage of a muscular wild male Amur tiger in a beautiful forest. Good find!

Vijay Rahan. I doubt if cannibalism is as rare as many think, but the pictures you took most definitely are. Many thanks for posting them!
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(09-22-2016, 03:15 PM)peter Wrote: Vijay Rahan. I doubt if cannibalism is as rare as many think, but the pictures you took most definitely are. Many thanks for posting them!

Of course @peter. I meant to imply that the behavior (with respect to Bengal Tigers) may perhaps be considered rare owing to lack of enough study / documentation. We never know, cannibalism could well be prevalent in the species but the sparsely documented instances (less than half a dozen records in the last few decades?) suggest otherwise IMHO. Thanks !
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Meet P212, the male tiger from Panna who was presumably unheard of in Kanha. Please do take a moment to read this.
He was born in 2010 to the Indri Tigress who was trans-located to Panna in 2009 & believed to have been sired by T-3, the Male brought in from Pench. As a strapping young radio-collared lad, P 212 left the park in 2014 and headed towards Bandhavgarh, traversing through human settlements in a journey which perhaps created history by retracing a lost corridor between the two parks. The Panna authorities monitored him closely during this period and needless to mention, the radio-collar turned out to be of immense value.
Within a month of his departure from Panna, a decision was taken to shift P212 to the lesser known Sanjay Dubri Tiger Reserve. No sooner did he arrive at SDTR, P212 courted with two resident females and sired litters of 4 and 5 cubs respectively by late 2014. All was hunky dory until another Male (SD005) crossed his path. As is the norm, the rival Male began wandering into P212’s territory which resulted in brutal fights for supremacy. After a series of battles, P212 was left badly injured & had lost all his canines. But the true fighter that he was, the SDTR authorities decided not to tranquilize him for medical aid as he seemed to recover naturally, albeit with a limp.
However, in a remarkable turn of events during the summers of 2015, SD005 male appeared to have plotted a move to eliminate the cubs sired by P212 and the females ran for cover. It was believed that P212 ushered the female & cubs to safety in a ravine and went back to fight it out with the intruder, a broken leg & loss of canines didn’t seem to deter him. At the end of the final brutal battle which lasted a few days, P212 eventually succumbed to injuries and died a heroic death. While most (injured) males flee the scene during such hostile takeover bids, P212 chose to stay put and go down fighting. He may have lost his life but ended up saving his offspring and thereby leaving a huge legacy behind.
He was given a grand funeral and the forest personnel remember him fondly as a legend of SDTR. Although not much is known of the rival male who must have wandered off to other parts of the park which had 2 other resident females, the mates of P212 and his 9 cubs are believed to be still ruling SDTR.
I’ve shared the true story of P212 (as per info obtained from the authorities & sources of SDTR) at our forum since he was a direct descendant of our very own Indri / Pattewala / Limping Male / Heartshape female. Kanha’s genes are not only alive & kicking in Panna but also in Sanjay Dubri Tiger Reserve now. Info as well as photos courtesy : SDTR.


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Just as Bheema, the 2nd of the Pandavas, is synonymous with raw power in the Hindu epic Mahabharatha, our very own Bheema is no less when it comes to fierce battles.
Bheema was born to Chimta female (Budbudi) in a litter of 4 sired by Kankata, the dominant male of Kisli at that time. While his siblings Bajrang & Banno seem to have territories of their own, the whereabouts of his other sister is unknown. As a young male speculated to move out of the park in search of new territory, he was radio-collared too.
However, he not only remained within the park but also fought with Chota Munna the new challenger. The authorities were in a quandry since his collar seemed to have fallen off & he wasn’t sighted for a couple of months giving rise to further speculation. He appeared out of the blue at Baba Thenga, with a few scars on him only to fight with CM and retreat again. While CM apparently took advantage of Bheema’s absence and mated with Dhawajhandi female as well as District Line female, Bheema not only came back with a bang last season and mated with females but also fought with CM who ran for cover. Having successfully warded off the threat posed by CM, Bheema began forays into territories belonging to Umarapani Male for mating rights with Choti Mada.
Needless to mention, Bheema only grew in confidence towards the end of last season and forays into Duke road, Lapsi kabar & Minkur anicut (which weren’t a part of his territory) speaks volumes of his power & resilience.
Look forward to Bheema asserting his dominance this season!


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