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So question skorro jr scar limper lambile mandevu and ncile and which Thanda impi male sired who or is it too hard to tell?
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(03-06-2025, 07:02 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So question skorro jr scar limper lambile mandevu and ncile and which Thanda impi male sired who or is it too hard to tell?

In this case, not being genetically related to each other (at least not closely related) could make more easy to guess in comparison to coalitions formed by brothers or half brothers. 

This topic has been discussed before, @criollo2mil explained this in Manyeleti thread. IIRC:

Skorro Jr - Skorro (obviously)
Scar eye and Limper - Sizanani

Mandevu - Skorro? actually I find some resemblance to Sizanani.
Ncile - Skorro
Lambile - Sizanani
4th Titswalo: Idk!

As curiosity, it has been suggested that the current 2 Othawa females are probably descendants of Sizanani (not "blood" daughters of Skorro Jr the last Tumbela male alive).
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(03-06-2025, 07:52 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(03-06-2025, 07:02 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So question skorro jr scar limper lambile mandevu and ncile and which Thanda impi male sired who or is it too hard to tell?

In this case, not being genetically related to each other (at least not closely related) could make more easy to guess in comparison to coalitions formed by brothers or half brothers. 

This topic has been discussed before, @criollo2mil explained this in Manyeleti thread. IIRC:

Skorro Jr - Skorro (obviously)
Scar eye and Limper - Sizanani

Mandevu - Skorro? actually I find some resemblance to Sizanani.
Ncile - Skorro
Lambile - Sizanani
4th Titswalo: Idk!

As curiosity, it has been suggested that the current 2 Othawa females are probably descendants of Sizanani (not "blood" daughters of Skorro Jr the last Tumbela male alive).
And sizanani is from the nkuhuma pride right?
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(03-06-2025, 07:52 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(03-06-2025, 07:02 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So question skorro jr scar limper lambile mandevu and ncile and which Thanda impi male sired who or is it too hard to tell?

In this case, not being genetically related to each other (at least not closely related) could make more easy to guess in comparison to coalitions formed by brothers or half brothers. 

This topic has been discussed before, @criollo2mil explained this in Manyeleti thread. IIRC:

Skorro Jr - Skorro (obviously)
Scar eye and Limper - Sizanani

Mandevu - Skorro? actually I find some resemblance to Sizanani.
Ncile - Skorro
Lambile - Sizanani
4th Titswalo: Idk!

As curiosity, it has been suggested that the current 2 Othawa females are probably descendants of Sizanani (not "blood" daughters of Skorro Jr the last Tumbela male alive).

Although recently what has happened with Menduvo may Titswalo rest in peace. 

Topic got my attention. Young male lion in Mibiri; there were comments how he could be son of Ncile. Another comment said he looked like lambile. I was wondering if they were brothers. 
Although I think is not just brothers that make it hard, but sometimes there are cousins who are with lionesses also sisters and cousins. Similar relatives is similar. They would still be brothers or cousins, but if Lambile and Ncile were brothers wouldn’t Menduvo still be brothers to both from their mother side?  Except Lambile.
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(03-06-2025, 12:27 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Hard to say for certain given that he's a distance aways but he might just be a tad bit better than he was in the previous sightings of him.


He's moving far better than the last time he was posted, it looks promising. He may bounce back if he can get some solid kills (however he can) and stay under the radar.
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(03-06-2025, 12:47 PM)Rabubi Wrote: He may bounce back if he can get some solid kills (however he can) and stay under the radar.

Not sure about that, its not about leg anymore, looks like disease completley took over, now he looks like his brothers on their final stage..

Shame what can happen to beautiful and strong prime male in only ~ 2 years..
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(03-06-2025, 07:10 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(03-06-2025, 12:47 PM)Rabubi Wrote: He may bounce back if he can get some solid kills (however he can) and stay under the radar.

Not sure about that, its not about leg anymore, looks like disease completley took over, now he looks like his brothers on their final stage..

Shame what can happen to beautiful and strong prime male in only ~ 2 years..

I'm choosing to stay optimistic but I do see what you mean. A shame indeed, his prime was cut very short.
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(03-06-2025, 08:51 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote:
(03-06-2025, 07:52 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(03-06-2025, 07:02 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So question skorro jr scar limper lambile mandevu and ncile and which Thanda impi male sired who or is it too hard to tell?

In this case, not being genetically related to each other (at least not closely related) could make more easy to guess in comparison to coalitions formed by brothers or half brothers. 

This topic has been discussed before, @criollo2mil explained this in Manyeleti thread. IIRC:

Skorro Jr - Skorro (obviously)
Scar eye and Limper - Sizanani

Mandevu - Skorro? actually I find some resemblance to Sizanani.
Ncile - Skorro
Lambile - Sizanani
4th Titswalo: Idk!

As curiosity, it has been suggested that the current 2 Othawa females are probably descendants of Sizanani (not "blood" daughters of Skorro Jr the last Tumbela male alive).
And sizanani is from the nkuhuma pride right?

Exactly, he was born in Nkuhuma pride, Sizanani was one of the few cubs that survived Mapogo attacks.
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Its almost a month without sightings of him. 

If those arent a new sighting and in his condition.. I fear it may be the first eulogy.
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I think we are now in the longest draught of updates since a long while. Usually we have a sighting of him once every week or so. 
Concidering his decline in health in the past sightings, its not looking good.
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(04-09-2025, 03:18 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I think we are now in the longest draught of updates since a long while. Usually we have a sighting of him once every week or so. 
Concidering his decline in health in the past sightings, its not looking good.

I have said in the past to never worry about him as he just has a tendency to disappear, but this time feels very, very different. He definitely hasn’t been with Mhangenis, atleast permanently since they come back from Sabi Sabi, nor has he been seen with Ximhungwes or Tsalala female. 

Hard to see him surviving without scavenging, and a major part of that for him was by following the females. U would also think with Khanya & NK coming into the area, he would move off as they made it clear last time they won’t accept him, but nah, still not spotted. If he is somehow alive, I would guess he’s quite close to the fence line and that’s how he’s avoiding trouble.
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Or returned to Manyeleti, like he did after the attacks on the Othawa pride. 
Still, even that would not be a good sign.
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