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The strongest bites in the animal kingdom

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Bite Force continued:

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Bite Force continued:

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India brotherbear Offline
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Bears: 
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India brotherbear Offline
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carnivoraforum.com/topic/9333832/1/  
  
Lion - BFQ ca 123.8 / BFQ carn 128.1
 
Tiger - BFQ ca 130.4 / BFQ carn 129.1
 
Grizzly - BFQ ca 99.3 / BFQ carn 90.3
 
*My conclusion: The bite force of a grizzly is roughly three quarters that of a lion or a tiger.
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India brotherbear Offline
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For the grizzly: The BFQ is quite different on post #77 compared to post #78.
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United States paul cooper Offline
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The method for finding bite force from post 78 is different from the tiger. I debated warsaw the rat ? on carnivora about that.
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India brotherbear Offline
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I would like to know the truth concerning the comparing of bear vs big cat bite-force. So much on the internet is garbage, even when it appears legit.
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India Vinay Offline
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(01-25-2018, 12:12 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Bite Force: 
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... your two different sources are contradictory  (Jaguar's psi 2000 Vs Bengal 1050) .... then your second source gives Jaguar bite force is almost half of Tiger's bite force.
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India brotherbear Offline
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I have seen many contradictions in animal bite-force testings. There is a logical reason for this. How does one persuade an animal to "give it his all" when performing this bite test?
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Finland Shadow Offline
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So here was own thread for biting forces too. This looks like to be one very controversial issue when so many different kind of studies. I wonder if there is any larger new study, where same scientist group would have made testing with different species with same methods and equipment to get reliable and comparable results? With new I mean something published in last 3-5 years.
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(03-02-2019, 03:24 PM)Shadow Wrote: So here was own thread for biting forces too. This looks like to be one very controversial issue when so many different kind of studies. I wonder if there is any larger new study, where same scientist group would have made testing with different species with same methods and equipment to get reliable and comparable results? With new I mean something published in last 3-5 years.

Bite force experiments are at best subjective. With different methods, the result will be always gonna be different.
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Finland Shadow Offline
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(03-02-2019, 04:10 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(03-02-2019, 03:24 PM)Shadow Wrote: So here was own thread for biting forces too. This looks like to be one very controversial issue when so many different kind of studies. I wonder if there is any larger new study, where same scientist group would have made testing with different species with same methods and equipment to get reliable and comparable results? With new I mean something published in last 3-5 years.

Bite force experiments are at best subjective. With different methods, the result will be always gonna be different.

Yes, but when different people make studies in different times, it is very difficult to know how comparable really.
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(03-02-2019, 04:18 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(03-02-2019, 04:10 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(03-02-2019, 03:24 PM)Shadow Wrote: So here was own thread for biting forces too. This looks like to be one very controversial issue when so many different kind of studies. I wonder if there is any larger new study, where same scientist group would have made testing with different species with same methods and equipment to get reliable and comparable results? With new I mean something published in last 3-5 years.

Bite force experiments are at best subjective. With different methods, the result will be always gonna be different.

Yes, but when different people make studies in different times, it is very difficult to know how comparable really.

I mean, when it is measuring size of some animal, it is quite simple. You just take some measurements from commonly agreed places. When measuring bones and skulls it is also very simple when using commonly agreed points, where measurements are taken. That also makes it easy and simple give some weight estimations based on commonly agreed calculation formula. Simple and easy.

But when we are talking about bite force, there are more variables like used equipment, how animal was made to bite and how it was done so, that animal really gave effort.... not as simple anymore. There can be many opinions naturally, when many times results are somewhat different from different sources. Personally I am hoping, that something new would come up and that was what I was asking here now:)
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Finland Shadow Offline
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(03-02-2019, 04:10 PM)johnny rex Wrote:
(03-02-2019, 03:24 PM)Shadow Wrote: So here was own thread for biting forces too. This looks like to be one very controversial issue when so many different kind of studies. I wonder if there is any larger new study, where same scientist group would have made testing with different species with same methods and equipment to get reliable and comparable results? With new I mean something published in last 3-5 years.

Bite force experiments are at best subjective. With different methods, the result will be always gonna be different.

Btw I read your reply first somewhat sloppy, so my answer to you is because of that maybe "odd". You were talking about same thing actually as I was Grin But anyway hopefully some scientists would have enough interest and funds to make a new and good study about this subject.
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Quick note as this seems to be a common misconception, bite force studies don't usually involve an animal actually biting. The measurements are based on skull morphometrics such as the area of the masseteric fossa. In other words, all animals studied are dead and their dry bones are simply being measured. The equipment includes a caliper, maybe a CT scanner, and a computer, no pressure sensors involved.
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