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The Mantimahle Males
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So all 5 males are now gone? And they have 3 coalitions of sons
2 Plains Camp males I think 8 Nkhulu males 2 youngest I have no idea where they are And the 2 oldest mantimahle sons are dominat males of the torchwood breakaway pride 
1/2 s36 Mantimahle sons:
Photo credits: gmitchely_wildlifephotography  *This image is copyright of its original author
Mantimahle sons seen at MalaMala. These two are the ones that rule over the Torchwood Pride, right?
Yes.
They have been in Sabi Sands for a few weeks now, something might have happened on Kruger which pushed them and the pride to SS, and even as far south as Mala Mala. They were also marking territory in the North. These 2 look strong, darker-maned male has a huge black mane and his brother looks very big, certainly much larger than him which is rare to see. Their PCM half-brothers are what they are, very powerful duo, and while the Nkhulu strength is up in the air we at least know they are extremely aggressive towards females and subadults, so chances are these Mantimahle are no joke. They may be trouble for the BDM, and since they are in Mala Mala, Ndhzengas are always quick to respond when the BDM goes there since Mala Mala is their core territory, so I hope they can do the same against a potential more powerful duo compared to the BDM. The Ndhzengas cubs to the older females have just been introduced and their older cubs are only 1yo, they gotta hold on for at least 2 years. These Ndhzenga are 9yo, still in their prime and since they are always in top condition they'll probably not deteriorate significantly once they turn 10.  (02-26-2024, 05:41 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Mantimahle sons seen at MalaMala. These two are the ones that rule over the Torchwood Pride, right? Yes A portion of the Torchwood which is currently split. There’s a fragment that’s sort of nomadic or still stays closer to The Last Kruger Male who was the former dominant male over the entire Pride. (02-26-2024, 06:12 AM)Mapokser Wrote: These Ndhzenga are 9yo, still in their prime and since they are always in top condition they'll probably not deteriorate significantly once they turn 10. Ndhzengas are just over 8 yrs old. These Mantimahles sons are not much younger, maybe just around 1 year, as they are presumed to be born sometime in 2016 (prob mid or late 2016) as they are oldest Mantimahle sons. Their first sighting in MM in January 2021, 3 yrs ago, with 5th Mantimahle: 
They have been moving around a lot recently, which leads me to believe that it could be pressure from the imbali males that recently appeared in Mala Mala
 (02-26-2024, 09:01 PM)Gavskrr Wrote: They have been moving around a lot recently, which leads me to believe that it could be pressure from the imbali males that recently appeared in Mala Mala The young males that were hanging around with Wonky eye? I doubt they are in any position to pressure two prime males with the pedegree of the Mantimahles. (02-26-2024, 09:07 PM)sik94 Wrote:(02-26-2024, 09:01 PM)Gavskrr Wrote: They have been moving around a lot recently, which leads me to believe that it could be pressure from the imbali males that recently appeared in Mala Mala The three oldest imbali males, sons of the mluwati males. One of them was seen in mala mala recently, but it could be that the mantimahles men are just looking for new pride
@Tr1x24 definitely not just over 8. They are 9 to 9,5.
They were already very well devoloped by late 2019 and are already grandfathers with daughters over 3,5yo. Mala Mala gives a conservative estimation of their age, one 8,5+ and the other 9+. October 2019, they'd have to be around 3,5yo here or not even that to be 8 now:  *This image is copyright of its original author They'd have to be 4yo when their Southern daughters were born. Here the bigger of the 2 Ndhzengas posted in 2017:  *This image is copyright of its original author
Yes, based on this photo he's at least 2, maybe 3 years old. A minimum he's 8-9 years old. Could be closer to 3. Between 8-10 for sure as of today.
I'm leaning closer to 8.5 or 9, but who knows. Anybody have an idea of about when they were born? Early-mid 2015? |
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