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(04-24-2016, 07:04 AM)tigerluver Wrote: A lot of prehistoric species we don't have a true "average" figure for. There are usually less than a handful of worthwhile specimens that certainly cannot properly represent the entire population. For A. simus, we fortunately do have a lot of bones and the average for males was likely 700-800 kg off the top of my head, but I might be remembering wrong. There is only A. angustidens specimens, so no average can be given here. I am not aware of how many Sarkastodon specimens there are to say anything on their averages.

A.simus, in my opinion, was more of 600 kilograms. Also, I would place A.angustidens at 850 kilograms. Sarkastodon would be at 800 kilograms as already decided.
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Daenodon - predator or scavenger?
                                                             
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Archaeotherium Skull
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- Length of skull 53,5 cm
- Wide of skull 43 cm
- Length of upper canine 8,2 cm
- Length of lower canine 6,5 cm
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I find the skull of Entelodonts and Andrewsarchus to be very different. The skull of Andrewsarchus does not have the protruding boney cheeks like you see in the Entelodont skull. I believe it was a closely related but distinct group. Due to this, I think that there is no reason to believe Andrewsarchus shared the same proportions of Entelodonts.

Also, the teeth on Andrewsarchus look more carnivorous then that in Entelodonts. The back molar teeth in Daeodon are flat, made to chew plant material, but the teeth on Andrewsarchus are tapered and more pointed, designed to crush bone like hyena molar teeth. This indicates that if they are in fact relatives, it seems that these branch of ungulates started out as carnivores, eventually evolving to become more and more omnivorous.

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Maybe the Entelodonts were more omnivorous?
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Entelodon deguilhemi
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Skeleton and reconstructed life appearance of the entelodontid Entelodon guilhemi: The anatomy of European entelodonts was almost completely unknown until the finding of abundant cranial and postcranial remains of Entelodon guilhemi at the site of Villebramar, France. This material shows the animal to have been quite large, with a height of 1,35 m at the shoulders and a skull 65 cm long. Broadly piglike in appearance, entelodons differed from true suids in having a completely fused radius and ulna, as well as the tibia and fibula, and in having lost the lateral digits, thus being didactyl. A nearly complete skull and mandibles show the clear resembrances between the skull of Entelodon deguilhemi and species of the American genus Archaeotherium. Both animals had elongated heads with flaring zygomatic arches and mandibles with bizarre, knobby ventral projections. The wear of their tusklike canines shows they were used for biting large objets, not only for display and occasional intraespecific fighting, as in pigs and hippos.
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Daenodon
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I have searched the internet for pig evolution and ancestral pigs - and came up empty. Is the origin of the pig family ( genus sus ) a complete mystery?
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Archaotherium skeletons
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Daenodon



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Daeodon shoshonensis by Roman Uchytel
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I consider Daeodon as being a very impressive omnivore. A prehistoric beast worthy of respect.
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Daeodon at Nebraska State Museum
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I think Entelodonts are omnivorous, a little bit like a hippo. Hippos are known to consumed meat on occasions.
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(03-28-2017, 05:46 AM)epaiva Wrote: Daenodon 
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Entelodonts look impressive, almost like the mammalian version of Tyrannosaurus rex with similar big head that walk on all-fours. Pay attention to the forward facing eyes, they must be formidable predators at times.
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