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The Good and Bad about WildFact - Need your suggestions

India sanjay Offline
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Hello Guys,
WildFact is more than 5 year old and It was created due to instability in AVA. There is lot of things I can say about WF, but I leave it on others.
The purpose of this thread is to tell us What things you like and What you don't like? what can be improved and how we are when compared to other website or forums on internet
Knowing this will help us to improve the forum further so that we can share the passion of wildlife with each other on wildfact. Below is my questions

1. What do you like about WildFact?

2. What you don't like?

3. What improvement do you want to see on this forum?

4. Is any important feature we are missing?

5. How is WildFact compared to other forums and websites (In animal category)?

6. Are you happy with the moderation? Or do you think we need to improve?

If you have any other questions or any suggestion, don't be shy, Share your thoughts here. Base on your feed back we will try to improve the WildFact.
"There is pleasure in the pathless woods, there is rapture in the lonely shore, there is society where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar; I love not Man the less, but Nature more" --Lord Byron
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India Rishi Online
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( This post was last modified: 08-03-2018, 11:29 AM by Rishi )

(08-02-2018, 08:53 AM)sanjay Wrote: Hello Guys,
WildFact is more than 5 year old and It was created due to instability in AVA. There is lot of things I can say about WF, but I leave it on others.
The purpose of this thread is to tell us What things you like and What you don't like? what can be improved and how we are when compared to other website or forums on internet
Knowing this will help us to improve the forum further so that we can share the passion of wildlife with each other on wildfact. Below is my questions

1. What do you like about WildFact?

2. What you don't like?

3. What improvement do you want to see on this forum?

4. Is any important feature we are missing?

5. How is WildFact compared to other forums and websites (In animal category)?

6. Are you happy with the moderation? Or do you think we need to improve?

If you have any other questions or any suggestion, don't be shy, Share your thoughts here. Base on your feed back we will try to improve the WildFact.

Good that you asked! I myself was considering a post regarding this on the Mods thread...

1. High standards & zero troll-tolerence. 
Earlier i used to think the moderation a bit too "iron-fisted" but having seen a few mischief elements being swiftly filtered out, i'd changed my stance. 

That leaves the mature, quality posters & the atmosphere is civil.

2. For some reason Wildfact images don't appear in Google search

For example; if i use the keyword "Sundarban tiger" then despite having probably the best collection on the internet, there are no  image hosted in this forum is in the first 200 results, while most image before it are random Bengal tigers in water... some even from zoos. That's blatant misinformation!
I understand that search results vary from user to user, but this is ridiculous. Even old AVA stuff still make appearance.

3. Often random snaps are posted without any photo credits & source. I myself am guilty of doing it regularly until a few weeks ago. (Eg: #39)
While a statutory disclaimer is displayed below every image, some photographers are more finicky about their name being mentioned than others. 

If a camera-trap image or infographic of statistics is posted from an article, the presenting it's source would lead the viewer to an interesting read while doing justice to the author/researcher.

We must actively encourage sharing of link to photographs source website/profile/article (Eg: #48). 

4. Two.
1st is a FOLLOW feature.  
Most forums have it, shouldn't be that tough to incorporate. There is already a "buddy" feature that's pretty redundant. I don't think anyone uses it. It could be replaced.
If parvez or SuSpiciouS makes a rare post on a thread i don't follow, i'd like a notification about it.
If peter likes a post, i want to get notified. That's something i'd like to read.

2nd would be a BOOKMARK feature.
The forum is like a sea of information. There's no way to find a particular special post for future reference other than tedious searching.

Presently i quote them for new reply & save them as drafts. A set of links should take a lesser toll on the server, especially when every profile has a 2-page list of last 100 posts of the user. Could be replaced by chosen ones.

5. ...

6. Personally, i think Mods could make better use of the "Quick Edit" feature & remove (never add) some parts instead of whole posts.

Erasing a few words could change tone of the whole conversation & would be less tedious than the whole delete-explain-warn-ban cycle.
"Everything not saved will be lost."

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Australia Herekitty Offline
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There seems to be an inordinate amount of posts containing defunct photos and videos that imo detracts from the experience of reading threads. Perhaps a cleanup is in order, coupled with some guidance for posters on what photo and video links are likely to stand the test of time.

Apart from that I appreciate the forum immensely, and in the coming decades if it continues, Wildfact will be a fabulous resource for future generations living in a world with ever diminishing numbers of wild animals.
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United States ShereKhan Offline
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. What do you like about WildFact?

Incredible source of information. Unrivaled anywhere else, as far as I'm concerned.


2. What you don't like?

See #6

3. What improvement do you want to see on this forum?

I would like to see different skins options. Maybe a dark theme.

4. Is any important feature we are missing?

Not that I can think of

5. How is WildFact compared to other forums and websites (In animal category)?

I only know of AVA and Carnivora and this site blows them away. Not even a comparison.

6. Are you happy with the moderation? Or do you think we need to improve?

Mods are way too quick to yell at people and threaten to ban people and then actually do it. We all come from different cultures and speak different languages and maybe that plays a roll in it. What is "acceptable" in USA society may not be in India or Iran or Russia. You can't build a community when mods are chasing people away with threats or unchecked power. At some point you have to let people be who they are.
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Portugal Michael Offline
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1- Be more mindful of the way the forum rules are enforced, avoid confrontation

Mods often engage in pointless discussions with good intentions I'm sure but it's still pointless, just give people a set number of warnings telling them precisely which forum rule they are breaking and then if they don't comply punish them.

I'm certain these back and forth discussions are one of the reasons for some people to be a member but not being active/more active.


2- There is distinct lack of information about individual animals (lions,leopards and tigers), lion coalitions, and specially individuals within lion prides.

Plus the information that there is scattered throughout countless pages in each topic, the information needs to be condensed somewhere maybe in the first page of each topic.

For example Coalition Birmingham Boys/Gowrie males

Names of each lion

Ages

Natal Pride

Dominant over which Prides

Number of Offspring-Gender

Coalition Dynamics

Just an example, people that participate in the forum for some time probably know all this information but even for them it would be still useful to have access to a page with all this information condensed and up to date.

For new members this would be immensely useful for obvious reasons.

As caveat much of the discussions on this site are often members asking questions to more senior members having a page like I described would probably reduce even more the discussions had.


3-Like others said having a way as a member to mark or follow certain topics would be good
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( This post was last modified: 08-03-2018, 02:03 PM by peter )

I only saw interesting comments so far. Many thanks.

Continue by all means.
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India sanjay Offline
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We are really liking your suggestion, I expect more from old members.. Please keep giving your suggestion...  We really value our members
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United States ShereKhan Offline
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Being able to follow or subscribe to an individual thread would be great. I utilize that feature over at Skyscraper City to just follow the projects I'm interested in or are relevant to my hometown.
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Switzerland Spalea Offline
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In a few words...


1) The good about WF:

- The only one animal forum I know that is really about wild animals' life, whose aim is clearly motivated by the passion of the animals. The other forums (AVA, Carnivora...) being only like sports forum, the players teams or the individual champions being replaced by the favorite animals of the groupies/fans. No use to describe it more...

_ The mods are very competent, talented and... patient. Always a pleasure to read some very instructiv comments by Peter, Sanjay, Pckts, Rishi, Tshokwane and so on.

- Extremely wide range of photos and videos.

2) the "bad":

- IMO, WF is the only one animal forum that stands up to the interspecfic animals conflicts fanatics. Thus, not surprising to see from time to time a new forumer tempted to invest the place by wishing to impose his vision that would be the only one good about his favorite animal (because us, we didn't understand anything).

By this way WF arouses keen interest...

3) the improvements...:

May be a larger control about some new forumer's first posts whose excessive diligence (zeal) leads to post some fake photos or some photos already posted, sometimes several times. Without forgeting some irrelevant photo, recently we were several to be angry because of a hangeg and flayed jaguar photo with a completely "off topic" question.

I know, we were all new forumer. And I don't want to insist more and lecture.

4) "Is any important feature we are missing?":

From my point of view, no.

5) WF and the other animals forums:

Already answered in 1)

6) "Are you happy with the moderation? Or do you think we need to improve?"

Idem, already answered in 1)... The moderation is clearly an asset of WF
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India sanjay Offline
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( This post was last modified: 08-08-2018, 10:15 AM by sanjay )

Thanks for participating and giving your suggestions

@Rishi
-- For some reason Wildfact images don't appear in Google search.

Images are widely not controlled by us. Most of the images are directly inserted from any other website. In order to rank images in google search, some optimization needed, It should have alt tags, It should be light weight and the text around it.
We lack all these things, becasue most of the people here do not know these things and there is no way we can force them to do so.. they are not IT people they are just regular people.

Regarding Point 3.
Thats why I manually created that functionality (inserting credit disclaimer at the bottom of every image). AGain, it all depends on poster. Some of our members give proper credit (epaiva, ngala, tshokwane) But some don't care.. we can only remind them time to time.. we can not do much more about that.. This is problem with all community where anyone can upload.

Regarding point 4.
I agree these are 2 important feature. Following and Favorting a posts. I quickly searched for them, but they are not ready made and hence I need to invest time/money for it. I have several option in my mind and I will take appropriate decision.

Regarding point 6.
It is actually Nice Idea and I have used it in past. Announce it in Mod section

@Herekitty
We are trying to to cleanup process and our mod @Ngala and @Tshokwane is doing it. We will further discuss about this.

@ShereKhan
Adding new skin for forum is not big deal but Since we are animal forum therefore we are little selective to this. We will add more skin in future if we found related to animals.

Moderating is tough job and if we start giving space people start misusing it, I can understand your concern though and hence in most of the cases we first give mild warning. The most important thing is attitude, If you have good attitude and know how to talk in general forum then little mistakes can be ignored. But still thanks for your suggestion we will try to incorporate it as much as possible.

You can subscribe a thread and you will get notification when some one make posts: below is screenshot of how you can do this

Subscribe to wildfact threads
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@Michael
Thank you michael for these suggestions. Actually your suggestion is something that we have in our mind but since it is tedious job and requires lot of time to gather information scattered here and there. Most of the mods or member here do it partime and hence they are bound by time. I still think with the help of our members and mods we can do this. If you or other willing to this thing, please open a thread and start gathering information for individuals or pride. @Ngala and @Tshokwane may be we should discuss it in mod section and do something (See Michael post above)

following a topic is possible see above answer, following a member need some time, we will do something about it.

@Spalea
We have restrication set for every new signup, their first few posts are moderated and once we think the poster is genuine we remove the restriction. Though I agree that some time old members start posting same information without doing research. We are trying to tell them and hope in future we can come with some solid solution for this.
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United States ShereKhan Offline
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Has this always been there or did you do it based on our suggestions?
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India sanjay Offline
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It is from beginning of the forum
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India Rishi Online
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( This post was last modified: 08-09-2018, 12:14 PM by Rishi )

(08-03-2018, 02:59 AM)Herekitty Wrote: There seems to be an inordinate amount of posts containing defunct photos and videos that IMO detracts from the experience of reading threads. Perhaps a cleanup is in order, coupled with some guidance for posters on what photo and video links are likely to stand the test of time.

Why it happens?

The photos are often directly linked form sources like social media (FB, Twitter etc.) or websites by using this button:

*This image is copyright of its original author

But the images shared this way are prone to getting defunct with time. In case of social media sites original posts might get removed or their privacy settings might get changed, thus rendering the inking void. 
Minor sites may get completely shut down along with all its content.

What you can do to avoid it happening again in future?

Download the images (videos can) and upload it using this button:

*This image is copyright of its original author

...but with that always share a link to the source & mention photo courtesy.
"Everything not saved will be lost."

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( This post was last modified: 08-13-2018, 11:06 AM by Wolverine )

The richest and most wonderful collection of big cats images in all internet, the best wildlife albums.  Scientific level is not very high, probably due to deficit of bloggers with biological education. The forum is created to be "watched", not to be "read". 
The "pillars" of the wildfact are 2 guys - @Pckts (tigers) and @Tshokwane (lions), they together make 40% of all posts and probably load 60% of all images. If for some reasons these 2 guys quit I afraid the forum will be almost ruined...
In general wildfact is wonderful, remarkable forum and deserve its wide popularity.
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