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Size comparisons

Norway Pantherinae Offline
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Here is a thread where we can post size comparisons so it will be easier to keep track on The great comparisons that memembers make. I will kindly ask @GuateGojira would be so Nice to post the great ones he has made on this thread.
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( This post was last modified: 11-05-2015, 11:59 PM by GuateGojira )

Ok, there is no problem, I would be glad to put my old and new images here.

By the way, if someone have special comparisons that would like to see, just ask me, and if I have the data (real measurements and images from side view), you will have it. Joking

Edit: I will post the first images tonight, so, keep an eye in this new topic.
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(11-05-2015, 11:54 PM)GuateGojira Wrote: Ok, there is no problem, I would be glad to put my old and new images here.

By the way, if someone have special comparisons that would like to see, just ask me, and if I have the data (real measurements and images from side view), you will have it. Joking

Thanks Guate I really do apriciate that, You make The best size comparisons I've seen!

I have a request about spotted, brown, and striped hyena and The biggest South African male lion You have (Max length, hight and also if You could use a large male in The picture) and also Cape buffalo! 

Hope this isn't to much! Anyways thanks Guate
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( This post was last modified: 11-06-2015, 12:57 AM by Pckts )

Careful hear Guate, Im going to be selfish and make a few requests as well, hahah


Asian and African Elephants

Water Buffalo aka Marsh buffalo from (Kaziranga area only, no captive specimens) to Cape Buffalo (very hard to find any real Water buffalo info, I know)

Dhole to Wild Dog

Grey Wolf to Spotted Hyena

Largest Leopard sub species to largest Cougar sub species
Or add Largest Jaguar sub species and do all 3

Polar Bear to Kodiak

Nile Croc To Salt water Croc

Killer Whale To Great White


Just that for now,  ha

Thanks and anything you provide is greatly appreciated
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I did really like that list @Pckts all would be great polar bear to kodiak and wolf to hyena those are some great idea's!
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( This post was last modified: 11-08-2015, 06:12 AM by Sully Edit Reason: I just keep coming up with great ideas ay XD )

I'd like to add to that list

hippo - rhino

caracal - clouded leopard

Bison - Cape Buffalo

African Leopard - Sri Lankan Leopard

Asiatic - African Lion

If you can
"When the tiger stalks the jungle like the lowering clouds of a thunderstorm, the leopard moves as silently as mist drifting on a dawn wind." -Indian proverb
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( This post was last modified: 11-08-2015, 06:18 AM by JawaRumbia )

Nice idea SVTIGRIS, Sri lankan leopard and African leopard for size comparison. May be their size different is slight...
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(11-08-2015, 06:18 AM)JawaRumbia Wrote: Nice idea SVTIGRIS, Sri lankan leopard and African leopard for size comparison. May be their size different is slight...


yea, i think sri lankans are the biggest leopards in th world though given they have no lions or tigers to deal with
"When the tiger stalks the jungle like the lowering clouds of a thunderstorm, the leopard moves as silently as mist drifting on a dawn wind." -Indian proverb
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Guatemala GuateGojira Offline
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Hello guys, sorry for the delay, but my new job don't let me much time.

There are many comparisons!!!  shocked Jajajaja.

I will try to make a new every week, starting with those of @Pantherinae. If trough that time, you manage to found information (real measurements) of any of those animals, you can post them here too.

Greetings to all.
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( This post was last modified: 11-09-2015, 10:31 AM by sanjay )

Here are some comparisons;


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Hey Guys, I have question for you
How do you scale 2 different animals on same canvas ? I mean there should be some specific approach or formula to set the dimension of 2 animals when putting in canvas.
I can simply scale or resize a animal to look smaller or bigger to the other animals in photoshop or any other photo editing software you guys use.

Can you explain it ? Because only then your size comparison is valid.
Let me know if you didn't understand? I can explain my question with graphic too
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(11-09-2015, 10:36 AM)sanjay Wrote: Hey Guys, I have question for you
How do you scale 2 different animals on same canvas ? I mean there should be some specific approach or formula to set the dimension of 2 animals when putting in canvas.
I can simply scale or resize a animal to look smaller or bigger to the other animals in photoshop or any other photo editing software you guys use.

Can you explain it ? Because only then your size comparison is valid.
Let me know if you didn't understand? I can explain my question with graphic too

For me personally, I go by the average reported heights, and, placing one animal over the other, I try to judge the appropriate proportions between the two.
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It is simple, the first steep is to found a picture of the animal, it most be in perfect side view and preferably with a full view of the feet or hoofs.

Latter, I search real measurements, not estimations or simple ranges on the internet. Only real measurements can give you a real approximation of the actual dimensions. Methods can change the actual scaling, but regularly this most not create any problem, especially with the larger animals, where 10-20 cm are summarized in a few curves.

Latter, the animal is NOT scaled based in only one dimension (height or length), because that create a biased image of the real animals. When I scale the beast, I try to found the real average size based in all available measurements. For example, you can't just scale a tiger based on height, you most use body length and even chest girth. However, like I have found with the Indian mammals, many animals lack of most of that information and so we most scale them with what we have.

When I scale an animal, I use the average height and the average length together (when available), to presented specimens that actually shows what most be an average sized species in all departments. This avoid any conflict between points of view or personal ideas of the size. However, in order to do this, you most have a scale in the bottom, just in this form you can measure the animal. If we use only blank background, the comparison is completely unreliable as we don't know what is the size used.

The background most be scaled in one dimension, in my case every square measure 20 cm, so an animal measuring 210 cm in head body, can be scaled with 10 1/2 squares. Obviously, my method allow to change the scale, so if we want to create a comparison between whales, those squares can change to meters.

Finally, all measurements used AND its references most be presented, if not, we don't know where you get those "sizes". We most know the source and its reliability. In extreme cases, like that of the Barasingha (not presented yet), I used estimations in the size because there are no real measurements in any of the tons of hunting literature (only real weights were available, but all are from record specimens). However, when at least three real measurements are available, we most used them and take the risk in order to show an animal based in real measurements.

In the weight department is easier, as the volume of the animal can change very easy in the images. Only averages of three or more animals are used, if only two specimens are available (like the Indian lion of the Barbary lion), I only put the range to give a general, although not conclusive, idea of its body mass.

This is a summary of my method to scale my animals. It is not easy, it is not fast, but is the most reliable way to show the size of animals "in the flesh". Other thing, I have found that the use of humans in the image is perfect to show how large is an animals and most of the time, viewers of my images are impressed about "how large" or "how small" are some animals.


Hope this helps @sanjay.
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Also, when i say i scale the animals according to height, i dont mean that i distort the animal by only increasing/decreasing it`s height, without the rest of his body. When i scale them to height, everything else should fall into place.
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@Pantherinae, here is one of your asked images, the largest South African lions on record, from the two populations:


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As you can see, a lion of over 200 cm in head-body is massive!!! I used the maximum figures and this is the result. Now, on the record from the largest south west lion, I used the hunting record from a lion hunted in the north of Zimbabwe reported by Pitman. Yes, I know that this is not a first hand source, but it is slightly longer than the largest lion reported by scientists in the area (209 cm). This record is not included in the previous comparative image with all the data included, because the measurements and weights presented of this population were all from scientific sources, so I excluded this large specimen. However, now you can see it and is no different, overall, from the scientific records.

About the skull size from the south west area, I don't have any data, expect from the figures from J. H. Mazák, which present an average of 358.3 mm (+/- 21.22), suggesting a maximum figures of about 380 mm.

In a next post, the size of the spotted hyena, like all of you deserve.

By the way, if someone had measurements "in the flesh" from American gray wolves, I would appreciate them very much.

Greetings.
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