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(02-12-2022, 04:42 AM)Pckts Wrote: I’d be curious about the Jaguar skulls you mentioned though, maybe you can post some scans when you have a spare minute?
It’d be nice to see some Pantanal Jags skull measurements including CBL to see how they correlate.
Here is what I found, real measurements that can be useful for comparisons:
* Nelson & Goldman (1933):
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They also report the biggest jaguar that I have read about, measured in the flesh. Sadly I don't know if it was "between pegs" or "over curves", but I think it was in the first form.
* Pocock (1939):
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All the table from his document, from several populations, including some from Guatemala! There are more details in the paper.
And finally, Seymour (1989):
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He mixed males and females, but the important thing is that he did measuread one skull of which was a big one.
Maybe other posters had more records, but these are the ones that I have, from scientific papers.
Great info, I’ll review next week when I’m back in front of a large screen but it looks as though you have a couple of 20”ers.
A shame there’s not many Panatanal Jags but great info still.
In regards to the record Jaguar, do you know it’s body dimensions?
We can compare it to Joker or quite a few other Jags and see how it stacks up.