Persian Leopard (Panthera pardus saxicolor)

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(02-08-2022, 03:37 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(02-08-2022, 03:02 AM)LoveAnimals Wrote:

(02-08-2022, 02:27 AM)Pckts Wrote: Vin Diesel was never weighed, at least nothing verified.

I'm sure once you posted on Modern weights and measurements of wild leopards a copied and pasted message from somewhere, where it said it was weighed before 84 kg, then there was a phrase of "he's a 97 kg man eater".

Where did you get those messages from? I've been looking on forums and apps like Facebook but nothing, was it deleted?

Anyway I'm not saying it's something verified, hence why I would say everywhere "Vin Diesel weighed 97 kg" in the same way I say "Mawenzi is 83 kg".
Thing I'm not of course doing, I would say "he was said to be..."
That's because it's nothing verified. It could be reliable when looking at him when in his prime. But as likely or reliable he could be, it's not verified.

The reason why I brought him up is because of the "at least 70 kg" male. Likewise, I said that automatically if you consider reliable that at least 70kg male that was just guess estimated at sight, you shouldn't find that unreliable Vin Diesel that was actually captured and collared by rangers (so it's likely that it was weighed aswll).
Whereas I'm sure that male was never ever captured. And still, at least 70 kgs means that 70 kg is a low estimate. 
That's what least means. It would have said "at best" or at "max" if they were guess estimating it's upper estimate. 

(02-08-2022, 02:27 AM)Pckts Wrote: Again, images mean little without dimensions. And if you're using the word "bloated" to describe one, that is pretty much saying it seems fat while the other has a more dense musculature.

Same reason why also the "at least 70 kg" male can be off as estimate. As it could probably weigh more. Same thing also when mentioning the 95 kg confirmed male that from a flattering angle looked like 60+kgish. 
By the way, with bloated I mean with a very wide and enormous body frame. It was for the Mawenzi comparison, while Mawenzi from that image looked a bit of slender (talking about waists) for an 80+ pushing male, that male i posted below while comparing it to cougars it looks bloated in comparison, as it's belly and torso falls deeper and closer to the ground while compared to Mawenzi. 
And yes, there might be a bit of fat because of the cold climates. And proportionally yes you're also right that there are also males that might have a more dense musculature when compared to Iranian males as well. In my opinion when it comes to musculature and build Aberdare leopards take the cake. They have very wide and round skulls compared to most leopard populations. I don't know your opinion about them, but they are very impressive. The fact that they don't even need fat accumulation to look enormous (still Iranian males are enormous and massive, with or without fat, but still) because of their tropical habitats.
IMO the largest African population roams in kenya highlands.

Vin Diesels claim was 2nd hand, no real weights were obtained and verified for him. 
Nor was he collared, if he were collared we'd be able to obtain capture info far easier.
Lastly, he certainly doesn't look like a 90kg Leopard to me. In comparison, the male I mentioned was captured, collared and measured as well as compared to other males of similar dimensions with none reaching 80kg let alone 90kg. 

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Which "messages" are you talking about?
In regards to Mohammad Farhadinia and Kambiz Baraadarani?
I'm the one who posted the 88kg Leopard you posted, it was from the my discussions with them on IG.

You cannot estimate a leopard’s weight like that. He looks bulky in some pictures btw. Do you have any proof that he wasn’t collared? I believe shortridge posted a picture of him with a collar on a while back. There are also many claims of this ofc, that mbavala was weighed after his collar was removed. I get that we don’t have a chart that includes his measurements or a dm from a ranger but what is leading you to believe that he wasn’t weighed or collared at some poin? Reply