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Other carnivores birds (ravens, skuas, gull etc.)

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white tailed eagle fails to catch the duck, but the great black backed gull makes the kill!  




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Great skua hunting puffin: 



 

great black backed gull hunting puffin: 



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everyone finding these birds interesting should watch this link.   

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click on the video "king of the islands" 
(there it kills a rabbit) 

click this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Great_Black-backed_Gull#p00kttfl

 
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great black backed gulls death fight 




another fighting video



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fighting for rat 



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When talking about The grate black backed gull look at the size of this monster bird, here alongside my adult taxidermised female golden eagle the gull still looks massive


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Great thread Pantherinae ! Great to see a thread on some of the most awsome birds in the world! Regarding the size of the GBBG,
Great black backed gulls can get huge, you can see the imense size of this gull compared to this woman ! 
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Nothern shrike: 
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I pulled into the Virginia River mouth parking lot about 07:20 there was the back of an eagle on the shoreline just visible over the trail.  According to the white feathers flying it was eating a gull


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Slowly I opened the car door and  stood up. I could see the eagle was eating a first winter Great Black-backed Gull.  It was not that afraid of me as it gorged on breakfast without harassment from other eagles too wary to come in close to the parking lot.

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http://brucemactavish1.blogspot.com/2013...eagle.html


Where else do Bald eagles and GBBG share territories?

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It seems these two are quite the rivals.
Whether a bald eagle or white tailed eagle, both seem to compete with the BBG and don't seem to like it one bit. Haha

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For being a Gull, its impressive that they can compete with a Raptor at all. Im glad you turned me on to these gulls, quite impressive birds for gulls.


 
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Despite putting up a valiant fight, this unfortunate Great Black-backed Gull ended up making an easy meal for a Bald Eagle. With a plastic shopping bag entangled around its leg, it was unable to escape an earlier mid-air attack.
- Photo: Jared Clarke (February 2013)

Even in death and with a bag tangled around its leg, it still put up a fight.
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Great Skua vs Gull

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Mobbing a sea eagle

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Skua vs Gull

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great post's @Pckts yes I had white tailed eagles and Great black backed gulls outside my house all the time before I moved. they are rivals on the same line as almost every other compeating carnivore. the gull kills just as impressive prey as the white tailed eagles (if not the eagles are desperate). and actually seems more bold at attackig larger duck spicies than the eagles.

these gulls are not only compeating with raptors, they are sometimes are the dominant spicies! photagarphers who is trying to photograph buzzards, goshawks and marsh harriers etc. south in Norway says this gull is a trubble for getting the pictures because is scarres the raptors away, even goshawks (I've actually has seen one fight between them myself)! and that's impressive goshawks are real beasts themselves.
I've heard falconares say skuas has aswell beaten up both gyrfalcon and goshawks so badly that the birds never would hunt where the skuas where ever again! so raptors can loose fight's with eaqually sized gulls!  

impressive birds for sure: raptors capable of killing them where it lives is probably only: eagle owl, gyrfalcon and golden, bold and white tailed eagle.  
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(02-06-2015, 02:49 AM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: great post's @Pckts yes I had white tailed eagles and Great black backed gulls outside my house all the time before I moved. they are rivals on the same line as almost every other compeating carnivore. the gull kills just as impressive prey as the white tailed eagles (if not the eagles are desperate). and actually seems more bold at attackig larger duck spicies than the eagles.

these gulls are not only compeating with raptors, they are sometimes are the dominant spicies! photagarphers who is trying to photograph buzzards, goshawks and marsh harriers etc. south in Norway says this gull is a trubble for getting the pictures because is scarres the raptors away, even goshawks (I've actually has seen one fight between them myself)! and that's impressive goshawks are real beasts themselves.
I've heard falconares say skuas has aswell beaten up both gyrfalcon and goshawks so badly that the birds never would hunt where the skuas where ever again! so raptors can loose fight's with eaqually sized gulls!  

impressive birds for sure: raptors capable of killing them where it lives is probably only: eagle owl, gyrfalcon and golden, bold and white tailed eagle.  

 


Gulls definitely don't kill as impressive prey as eagles, that is for sure. They aren't capable of it, no gull is killing a fox or wolf. Or killing goats or pronghorns or even younger bob cats or servals. Raptors have far better weapons than gulls, hence the video you posted on the raptors thread of the golden eagle killing two birds fighting that were equal size. The difference is talons and sharper beaks. They can fight with both while guls can only fight with one, hence why guls are preyed on by eagles and not the other way around. (At similar sizes of course) All those images are of Black Backed guls fighting with eagles, so they are obviously in high competition. But guls are still impressive in their own right.
 
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hope you don't get me wrong I ofcourse never said gulls can kill prey as impressive prey as eagles. I said the white tailed eagle is careful at attacking other birds even though they can kill swans, but still the gull seems more bold at attacking ducks than the white tailed eagle, a golden eagle is far more aggressive than bold/white tailed eagle when in hunting mode. 

the white tailed eagle and great black backed gull is real rivals! 

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Guls will definitely hound and mobb eagles. But that is nothing new, crows hound and mob Hawks here in the states, smaller birds hound and mob crows etc.
Either way, BB guls are very cool. Im with you on that.
I would love to see a Albatross take on an eagle, they have much more size to compete at least.

That pic above is a great representation of what I am saying though, eagles lock talons when they fight and they dive bomb to the ground and the first to relinquish looses, it seems the eagle wants to do the same to the gul but thats obviously not going to work with a gul. Great images

 
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