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(04-22-2015, 10:39 PM)'sanjay' Wrote: Well, I got some information from the facebook page Notch the Lion-King of the Mara and His Five Sons .
I asked for some weight and body dimension measurement and I got the following figures for the notches
Quote:They are quite large males ,you are looking at around 230kg - 255kg when they have eaten.
Around 9ft long and 4.5 tall.
230 kg without a meal.
Around 240 in migration period due to lots of food, then 260 after eating
I have also asked for the source of this information and waiting for the answer. The page owner of the Notch the Lion-King of the Mara and His Five Sons, Is very mature and seems to be very knowledgeable person.
Sanjay, 4,5 height is certainly very exaggerated and it undermines the credibility of the source (btw "230kg - 255kg when they have eaten" vs "230 kg without a meal").
Ok... 230 kg empty? Hm, extremely heavy lions. Average serengetti males are around 180 kg (I dont know if empty - other posters could clarifiy that). I dont know how what is the weight of these lions and I dont want to estimate them via photos or videos, but what I know is that 200 kg empty lion is a very huge beast (for lion fans I have to add that the same goes for 230 kg empty tiger).
Another point is alleged growth of new lion generations...what is the explanation? Why should they be bigger? More food? Probably no, because more food = more lions.
Thats why I never ask photographers or fan page admins about weight, I like to strictly compare their eye witness observations. Most people, even naturalists and sactuary attendents are not as knowledgable about big cat wieghts and sizes as we are. They can certainly give us great eye witness accounts, unknown behaviors and predations but most of the time, the only people who truly know the size of these animals are verified biologists and forest dep't and we all know how extremely hard it is to get these weights from them after they have taken it.
Almost frustrating at times, imagine how many cats in Ranth have been weighed and measured yet we can't even get a single one.