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Nkuhuma Pride
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PCM did tolerate the young male back in the day.
At the same time, however, they chased one of the sub females from the adults once, leaving a guide puzzled. 
According to Cedric the Nkuhuma Pride is in the lodge in Chitwa near the pools and near Room 7, so maybe the Kambulas are also with them as they are busy mating this morning.
Ridge Nose's daughter on WildEarth Sunset safari yesterday, with K5 and K3.
 *This image is copyright of its original author Maybe she can renamed something to do with her ear. Better than just referring to her as 'Ridge Nose's daughter'. Although of course her sister/cousin was called 'Torn Ear'.  *This image is copyright of its original author
Photo from the Londolozi Blog The Week in Pictures #675. Photo credits to Kyle Gordon.
Bathed in fresh kudu blood, the Nkuhuma Young Male stares in the direction of a roaring male lion. (Photo taken 12th September)  *This image is copyright of its original author
So quick question is it just their genetics for the reason pale eyes and purple eyes sons where/are so small purple eyes two boys a lot smaller and undeveloped compared too chelas boy who was younger and then pales eyes son he’s kinda small for a 3 year old male or is it just stress potentially?
 (11-20-2024, 11:34 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So quick question is it just their genetics for the reason pale eyes and purple eyes sons where/are so small purple eyes two boys a lot smaller and undeveloped compared too chelas boy who was younger and then pales eyes son he’s kinda small for a 3 year old male or is it just stress potentially? Not sure how much stress plays a role in overall size development, but it can play a role in mane development, as has been seen countless times. I believe PCM son, in the Nkuhuma Breakaways, is a great example of this. From a very young age, you could see his body size was going to be really big, and when his mother was alive, his mane developed really quickly too. After his mother's passing, his body size developed at around the same pace, but his man has fallen off. He is a really big boy, for a male his age, and once things settle in for him, I would expect his mane to rebound as well.  (11-20-2024, 11:45 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(11-20-2024, 11:34 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So quick question is it just their genetics for the reason pale eyes and purple eyes sons where/are so small purple eyes two boys a lot smaller and undeveloped compared too chelas boy who was younger and then pales eyes son he’s kinda small for a 3 year old male or is it just stress potentially? Floppy Ear is another example of this, after he realised that he was never gonna be a member of the pride long term, and started focusing on separating himself, his mane really started to develop nicely for his young age. I, too, agree that stress prolly doesnt play any role in overall size, I think that’s purely genetics combined with the size of the pride. More pride members usually = less food on the table for everyone else, especially the younger members. 
Pale Eyes daughter and black mane mantimahle on safari sunrise november 20th
Credits to wildearth  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author
(11-20-2024, 11:45 PM)BA0701 Wrote:Very true and I think it’s situational too like it was the nkuhuma breakaways it’s only 3 lions on one kill now only 2 rather than the nkuhuma pride of what 7+ lions less food per meal also I guess genes too right matimahle and matimba vs matimba and avoca and avocas never really big time huge males but average I guess so could that play a factor as well?(11-20-2024, 11:34 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So quick question is it just their genetics for the reason pale eyes and purple eyes sons where/are so small purple eyes two boys a lot smaller and undeveloped compared too chelas boy who was younger and then pales eyes son he’s kinda small for a 3 year old male or is it just stress potentially?
It’s not a given that males will be as big as their fathers, Avocas / Giraffes were huge but out of all N/S Avocas, only Darkmane would prolly be a similar size to them. I sometimes wonder if the fact Avoca Pride was a breakaway from Giraffe Pride had anything to do with those males not being as big as their sires, as surely there must have been relation between the mothers and fathers to some degree, ofc on a broader scale, most of those lions are somewhat related but maybe not as closely as Avoca / Giraffe males and the Avoca females.
Anyways, I also heard a story about a fight in Botswana between two lions, one being a direct son from 1/5 Selinda males (original coalition of Sekekama and TornNose along with their brothers) and an unknown male. The known male, named Phakara, was said to be ‘noticeably smaller’ in a guides own words, yet the Selinda boys were the biggest males around. Just goes to show u can’t necessarily inherit size. 
Stumbled on this photo, 4/5 legendary Matimba Nkuhumas, prob from around 2015/16:
 *This image is copyright of its original author Jr. NK/Matimba left, Amber Eyes in front, Chela in the middle and Ridge Nose in the back. Purple Eyes was not on the photo. (Yesterday, 12:27 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Stumbled on this photo, 4/5 legendary Matimba Nkuhumas, prob from around 2015/16: Absolutely legendary photo! (Yesterday, 12:31 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(Yesterday, 12:27 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Stumbled on this photo, 4/5 legendary Matimba Nkuhumas, prob from around 2015/16: The legacy and behind and all the history after this photo couldn't be better even if it was scripted Crazy to think that none of them are alive today Them 4 have their legacy in their sons and daughters 3 of them have young males who will and/or have started their nomadic life right now The girls here watched three of most legendary coalitions to ever step foot in sabi sands, and depending of what PCM legacy will be Amber and RN might have seen 4 This is the better photo for comparison between Jr and Mbiri Jr Nkuhuma Jr isone of those lions that you wished you could see once again roaming Kruger and its with a broken heart that I see photos like this It hurts the most when it feels like these animals could have stayed with us longer Like Ottawa, Styx, Mangheni, Scrapper just to name a few that comes in my mind rn... I know Nkuhuma was older than all of them and he has something that the others dont have wich is that we can still see him through his son and lets hope from atleast mini Mbiri grandsons Amazing photo, I wonder who took that photo knew how much it would mean in the future (Yesterday, 01:54 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote:(Yesterday, 12:31 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(Yesterday, 12:27 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Stumbled on this photo, 4/5 legendary Matimba Nkuhumas, prob from around 2015/16: Beautiful take, my friend. Too many of these cats leave before their time, and it is always heartbreaking for us, because of the terrible loss of potential. While Othawa Male hit me hard, I still believe that Big Boy's story may well be one of the saddest. At least these four legendary cats left behind, what will hopefully be, a very long lasting legacy.
Nkuhuma Young Male with 3 Lioness in Simbambili Area:
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